Hi Will,

Thanks for the kind words.

I really like the idea of a LOPSA-recommended reading list (and I think
that, as an organization, LOPSA can recommend other things, too). The act
costs us almost nothing, and the difficulty is minimal, particularly when
the work is delegated.

Good ideas.

--Matt



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Will Dennis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thoughtful response (as usual) Matt…
>
> You said:
> "If there are 100,000 IT administrators on the internet active enough to
> ask and answer a question on Server Fault, where are they? Do they know
> that LOPSA exists and don't care or aren't interested or don't feel like we
> offer anything? Or are they completely unaware of us? How do we find out
> the answer to that question? How do you reach these thousands and thousands
> of people that we are trying to represent?"
>
> I keep thinking that LOPSA would do well to generate (or at least
> promulgate if someone else generates) a BoK ("best practices") for the
> profession, along with a certain amount of freely-available training (and
> maybe extending training material for members.) This would give LOPSA a
> powerful reason for being, and folks a good reason for joining (in order to
> get the extended training materials, as well as the other benefits.) Then,
> once there is something worth joining up for like this, then do some
> advertising on the relevant sysadmin-ny sites. There will always be a
> certain amount of folks in the profession who just don't care, to whom
> their job is just a day job to be done with as little thinking effort as
> possible. Can't worry about attracting those people. But maybe if LOPSA can
> be seen by IT management as a professional organization that has a powerful
> methodology to improve IT results, then maybe managers would become LOPSA
> advocates to their people in their org's, much like some of my managers
> have recommended AMA courses, Dale Carnegie classes, etc. to staffs I've
> been a part of.
>
> About who would generate the BoK/training - there's already good books out
> there on the DevOps front ("The Phoenix Project", "Continuous Delivery",
> "Visible Ops Handbook", etc.) that LOPSA could put on a "recommended
> reading" list, but I'm not sure what's already out there for the
> nitty-gritty stuff that would take newb admins and train them up "the right
> way" (like what I think Ops School is trying to work on.) Come to think of
> it though, I think every sysadmin should get/read "The Practice of System
> and Network Administration" by our own Tom Limoncelli et al, which I like
> to refer to as "the Bible of our profession" (YMMV) - LOPSA should put that
> book on the reading list as well.
>
> -Will
>



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