Reading a little of Mark's work[1] on system administration, I feel that his "gaming occupation" remark is directly related to Matt (Simmons) remarks on lack of rigor, codification, and cohesion. Gaming the occupation, by not treating it with the rigor and respect that it deserves.
[1]: http://books.google.com/books?id=uWfenIOYGXAC - Analytical Network and System Administration On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Mike Julian <[email protected]> wrote: > In case someone actually wants to jump on a BoK, I bought itbok.com/org a > while back, just for this very purpose. > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Will Dennis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thoughtful response (as usual) Matt… >> >> You said: >> "If there are 100,000 IT administrators on the internet active enough to >> ask and answer a question on Server Fault, where are they? Do they know >> that LOPSA exists and don't care or aren't interested or don't feel like we >> offer anything? Or are they completely unaware of us? How do we find out >> the answer to that question? How do you reach these thousands and thousands >> of people that we are trying to represent?" >> >> I keep thinking that LOPSA would do well to generate (or at least >> promulgate if someone else generates) a BoK ("best practices") for the >> profession, along with a certain amount of freely-available training (and >> maybe extending training material for members.) This would give LOPSA a >> powerful reason for being, and folks a good reason for joining (in order to >> get the extended training materials, as well as the other benefits.) Then, >> once there is something worth joining up for like this, then do some >> advertising on the relevant sysadmin-ny sites. There will always be a >> certain amount of folks in the profession who just don't care, to whom >> their job is just a day job to be done with as little thinking effort as >> possible. Can't worry about attracting those people. But maybe if LOPSA can >> be seen by IT management as a professional organization that has a powerful >> methodology to improve IT results, then maybe managers would become LOPSA >> advocates to their people in their org's, much like some of my managers >> have recommended AMA courses, Dale Carnegie classes, etc. to staffs I've >> been a part of. >> >> About who would generate the BoK/training - there's already good books >> out there on the DevOps front ("The Phoenix Project", "Continuous >> Delivery", "Visible Ops Handbook", etc.) that LOPSA could put on a >> "recommended reading" list, but I'm not sure what's already out there for >> the nitty-gritty stuff that would take newb admins and train them up "the >> right way" (like what I think Ops School is trying to work on.) Come to >> think of it though, I think every sysadmin should get/read "The Practice of >> System and Network Administration" by our own Tom Limoncelli et al, which I >> like to refer to as "the Bible of our profession" (YMMV) - LOPSA should put >> that book on the reading list as well. >> >> -Will >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > > -- Joseph A Kern [email protected]
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