On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I VPN'd into work (We have a non-split-tunnel VPN available), and then we
> can watch it, no problem.  It's the same content, being delivered over the
> same network, only it's encrypted and hidden from FiOS's routers.  There's
> no other explanation, simply, caught red handed.
>
> I reject the premise.
>
> By VPN'ing into a different network you are -- by definition -- getting
> traffic to and from Netflix via a different peering-point, presumably one
> that doesn't have 100s, 1000s, tens of 1000s, of Netflix customers all
> trying to cross it at the same time. It may be a narrower peering point than
> the one FIOS is connected to, but it suffers FAR less contention.

I'd go further, even.

By VPN'ing, you've proven that the problem isn't in your last-mile --
it's upstream at a peering point, just like Netflix and Level3 and
others are claiming.

So - you don't know with certainty that the FiOS network (which I
presume is a limited segment of the totality of network behind
Verizon's border...) is even part of the problem - it could be at any
hop upstream from you that isn't also upstream of the place where
traffic to your VPN concentrator happens to go.

[And speaking of L3 -- what do folks think of the periodic Level3
posts about peering and people telling untruths?  I regard them as
propaganda, of a sort -- but it's the kind that doesn't bother me too
much -- because I love to see other people fight for the truth and for
underdogs...]

--e
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