On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Elijah Wright wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
So I VPN'd into work (We have a non-split-tunnel VPN available), and then we
can watch it, no problem. It's the same content, being delivered over the
same network, only it's encrypted and hidden from FiOS's routers. There's
no other explanation, simply, caught red handed.
I reject the premise.
By VPN'ing into a different network you are -- by definition -- getting
traffic to and from Netflix via a different peering-point, presumably one
that doesn't have 100s, 1000s, tens of 1000s, of Netflix customers all
trying to cross it at the same time. It may be a narrower peering point than
the one FIOS is connected to, but it suffers FAR less contention.
I'd go further, even.
By VPN'ing, you've proven that the problem isn't in your last-mile --
it's upstream at a peering point, just like Netflix and Level3 and
others are claiming.
So - you don't know with certainty that the FiOS network (which I
presume is a limited segment of the totality of network behind
Verizon's border...) is even part of the problem - it could be at any
hop upstream from you that isn't also upstream of the place where
traffic to your VPN concentrator happens to go.
[And speaking of L3 -- what do folks think of the periodic Level3
posts about peering and people telling untruths? I regard them as
propaganda, of a sort -- but it's the kind that doesn't bother me too
much -- because I love to see other people fight for the truth and for
underdogs...]
Does it count as porpoganda if it's true? Or is it education?
Providing real information if valuable. In the most recent exchange, we got real
info from Verizon and from Level3.
And examples like this showing that changing the routing sidesteps the points of
congestion seem to show that Level3 is telling the truth.
David Lang
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