-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 That's a possibility, although that's a pretty hefty restriction (and kind of defeats the reason they'd become a member in the first place).
I worry about doing this for financially strapped members, though - we're a hackerspace, not a homeless shelter. I worry that it would be too hard to make that call in a fair way. Students are easy, financially strapped members are much more difficult. Ron On 2012-10-15 14:37, Roswyne wrote: > I am in favour of this, but would prefer to see it include casual members > as well as students. > > Financially strapped members could also be considered on a case-by-case > basis. > > From what I recall, the difference is primarily that reduced fee members do > not receive a key. so they do not have 24/7 access to the space - is this > correct? > > > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Jeremy Hiebert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I personally agree with the student discount, being a student myself. I > > would not decrease my membership dues but I know this is a concern > > and/or deterrent for other students. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hey guys, > >> > >> I'm forwarding along a suggestion from David Stewart, who's not > >> currently a member but is interested in SkullSpace. Based on what he > >> says, and some reading I've done, I think we should re-visit the idea of > >> student memberships. > >> > >> I was traditionally against it, but I'm starting to come around. It > >> helps that I re-read the hackerspace design patterns and it includes > >> this one: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Membership_Fees_Pattern > >> > >> Which includes the text, "Collect fees regularly. Make no exceptions, > >> ever. Choose an appropriate amount. Have discounts for students. Have at > >> least three months of rent on your account, all the time, no exceptions. > >> Elect a totalitarian treasurer." > >> > >> The issues I've had in the past with it - keeping everybody equal, etc - > >> I think we can set aside for the purposes of getting more members / more > >> interest / more events / etc. Another issue was how we manage it - and I > >> think honour system is fine. If you're going to school full-time, and > >> you tell us you are, that's good enough. If we don't believe you, then > >> you probably shouldn't be a member anwyays. > >> > >> It would create extra work for Jay - to switch members from student to > >> regular when necessary - so he definitely has a say in this. > >> > >> Students could, of course, choose to pay the full amount, if they'd > >> like. :) > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> - ----- Forwarded message from David Stewart <[email protected]> > >> ----- > >> > >> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:15:37 -0500 > >> From: David Stewart <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Skullspace student/casual memberships > >> > >> Hello Ron, > >> > >> Over the past year I have sporadically attended various events at > >> Skullspace (Most notably Mak's C course) and while I would like to become > >> a > >> full member, there has always been a few things that have held me back > >> (mostly due to lack of time). Compounding my existing lack of time > >> problem > >> is that since have I started school full time at the U of M, the amount of > >> free time I have has taken a dive off a cliff. Furthermore, being a full > >> time student, has rendered me more or less broke. > >> > >> I would like to contribute to the success of Skullspace, but $40 a > >> month is beyond my reach financially for now, and quite frankly with my > >> dwindling free time I could hardly spend any time at all at the space > >> anyways. > >> > >> I'm sure you see where I am going with this, but I will ask the > >> question directly.... Has there ever been discussion about memberships for > >> student/casual members? - Perhaps key less if need be, and/or based on > >> hours at the space per month, non-voting (or 1/2 of a vote), without a > >> dedicated storage spot etc. ? I realize that this has the potential to be > >> a slippery slope of "special treatment", but could a fair system be hashed > >> out? To me it seems that this could help to open up membership to a wider > >> audience and increase the amount of membership dues collected each month > >> without causing a significant increase in operating > >> costs.......Additionally, this could help to make Skullspace a more > >> inclusive community. (Not that it is particularly exclusionary at the > >> moment!) > >> > >> Anyways it's just a thought, I'll leave it to you and the Skullspace group > >> to make the decisions on this, but feel free to ask me questions and I'll > >> do my best to get back to you asap. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> David Stewart > >> > >> - ----- End forwarded message ----- > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > >> > >> iEYEARECAAYFAlB8Y94ACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QmTQCg3asSucA+sQ7tmhyg3OZmEgDn > >> P+oAn0uoAcEd3CF8plbHAAwB5h0jbcPe > >> =ju56 > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlB8Z8sACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QUjACbBJIfRjiMo52taF8JFdXa76Rw r0YAn3bJmtxBHQjxW+ocT05jccPX4pYn =hl7K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
