And FWIW the hackerspaces.org model has a few things that operate on the "paranoia" such as this one: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Sponsoring_Anti-Pattern so I wouldn't take that site as gospel. But what do I know?
On 15 October 2012 14:35, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote: > What kind of reduction are we looking at here? Is, say $10 a month > really the deciding factor for anybody for not becoming a member? > > I think $40 is already as cheap as we can go. If anything I'd say make > $40 the student rate and re-jigger (Mak's word) the regular member > rate. $40 is incredibly cheap for ~4200 sq. ft. of 24/7 access to a > space with tools, computers, a lounge, a budding arcade, and > developing electrical. > > On 15 October 2012 14:28, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I'm forwarding along a suggestion from David Stewart, who's not >> currently a member but is interested in SkullSpace. Based on what he >> says, and some reading I've done, I think we should re-visit the idea of >> student memberships. >> >> I was traditionally against it, but I'm starting to come around. It >> helps that I re-read the hackerspace design patterns and it includes >> this one: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Membership_Fees_Pattern >> >> Which includes the text, "Collect fees regularly. Make no exceptions, >> ever. Choose an appropriate amount. Have discounts for students. Have at >> least three months of rent on your account, all the time, no exceptions. >> Elect a totalitarian treasurer." >> >> The issues I've had in the past with it - keeping everybody equal, etc - >> I think we can set aside for the purposes of getting more members / more >> interest / more events / etc. Another issue was how we manage it - and I >> think honour system is fine. If you're going to school full-time, and >> you tell us you are, that's good enough. If we don't believe you, then >> you probably shouldn't be a member anwyays. >> >> It would create extra work for Jay - to switch members from student to >> regular when necessary - so he definitely has a say in this. >> >> Students could, of course, choose to pay the full amount, if they'd >> like. :) >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Ron >> >> - ----- Forwarded message from David Stewart <[email protected]> >> ----- >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:15:37 -0500 >> From: David Stewart <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Skullspace student/casual memberships >> >> Hello Ron, >> >> Over the past year I have sporadically attended various events at >> Skullspace (Most notably Mak's C course) and while I would like to become a >> full member, there has always been a few things that have held me back >> (mostly due to lack of time). Compounding my existing lack of time problem >> is that since have I started school full time at the U of M, the amount of >> free time I have has taken a dive off a cliff. Furthermore, being a full >> time student, has rendered me more or less broke. >> >> I would like to contribute to the success of Skullspace, but $40 a >> month is beyond my reach financially for now, and quite frankly with my >> dwindling free time I could hardly spend any time at all at the space >> anyways. >> >> I'm sure you see where I am going with this, but I will ask the >> question directly.... Has there ever been discussion about memberships for >> student/casual members? - Perhaps key less if need be, and/or based on >> hours at the space per month, non-voting (or 1/2 of a vote), without a >> dedicated storage spot etc. ? I realize that this has the potential to be >> a slippery slope of "special treatment", but could a fair system be hashed >> out? To me it seems that this could help to open up membership to a wider >> audience and increase the amount of membership dues collected each month >> without causing a significant increase in operating >> costs.......Additionally, this could help to make Skullspace a more >> inclusive community. (Not that it is particularly exclusionary at the >> moment!) >> >> Anyways it's just a thought, I'll leave it to you and the Skullspace group >> to make the decisions on this, but feel free to ask me questions and I'll >> do my best to get back to you asap. >> >> Regards, >> >> David Stewart >> >> - ----- End forwarded message ----- >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAlB8Y94ACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QmTQCg3asSucA+sQ7tmhyg3OZmEgDn >> P+oAn0uoAcEd3CF8plbHAAwB5h0jbcPe >> =ju56 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
