Colin will have to refrain from the crazy music he plays in AssentWorks ;)
On 1 November 2012 16:06, d-_-b <[email protected]> wrote: > On the subject of almost permanent walls, we can build double-sided walls > that "drape" over the crossbeams, but reach to the ceiling. Barring that, we > can drape over the crossbeam and install sound abatement panels in the gaps > ( think the walls of a recording studio ). These panels will prevent long > distance reflections of high frequencies that may bounce off the ceiling and > toward other spaces. Bass is something entirely different. > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We need to have almost-permanent walls, else we'll have complaints often >> when some people are having movies/games/a meeting and others are trying to >> work. No point in spending a huge amount of money ($14K/year?) to move >> somewhere that will suck. >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What are your requirements for an office? Would you just need a desk? >>> Keep in mind the space we're looking at is wide-open and we can't >>> build permanent walls in it. I don't know if we could offer a locked >>> room but I'm sure we could create some kind of gate (?) that clearly >>> says private area - keep out. I think all members would respect this. >>> >>> On 1 November 2012 15:11, Gordon Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I would pay extra for an office >>> > GT >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [email protected] >>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael >>> > Kozakewich >>> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:36 PM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] cashflow post move, yellow dog >>> > location, the gap and more >>> > >>> > We're going to have to re-jigger the floor plan a little, because it IS >>> > still big and there's a lot we can do with it. >>> > >>> > Has anyone talked about office space for members? Ron said he'd be >>> > willing to pay for a little space somewhere where he can work. I was >>> > thinking we could design little 5'x4' cubicles or something, for >>> > $100/month, >>> > which we could also give to members who need additional storage space. >>> > >>> > Justin, can you upload the floor-plan you got? We can take a look at >>> > what works where. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Justin Lacko >>> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:21 PM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] cashflow post move, yellow dog >>> > location, the gap and more >>> > >>> > We're a not-for-profit and I wouldn't call this reselling. These aren't >>> > commercial servers - they're members' servers and the cost is going to >>> > help >>> > offset power. These are the same servers we're hosting right now, for the >>> > most part. You seem to be thinking in terms of some kind of official >>> > reseller plan - I'm thinking member-based machines that are already >>> > operating. >>> > >>> > Do we require walls for a server room? Can we not stand up two racks >>> > against the wall in a low-traffic area? Do we not already have UPSes that >>> > you have been testing out? >>> > >>> > On 1 November 2012 14:16, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Considering extra expenses, that's more like $400-500 per month away >>> >> from breaking even. I don't like the financials of this move, we >>> >> should try to always assume worst-case. >>> >> >>> >> Also I'm not sure about charging for server space - we have no SLAs, >>> >> no walls for our server room there, heck you didn't even put a server >>> >> room on the plans. Also paid server space should have redundant >>> >> internet and more UPSes, neither of which we have, and I'm not sure >>> >> VOI will be happy about us reselling our free service for money - they >>> >> seemed to indicate it was no-SLA/hobbyist/not for profit before. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 11/1/12, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Mark, >>> >>> >>> >>> $80 pledge - 1 member >>> >>> $60 pledge - 14 members >>> >>> $50 pledge - 6 members >>> >>> $40 pledge - 2 members >>> >>> >>> >>> Total: $1300 from 22 members >>> >>> 1 member was undecided >>> >>> 19 members still need to be contacted. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1 member is willing to relocate his servers to our space and pay >>> >>> $100/mo. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other considerations from the meeting: >>> >>> Server space: $10/mo. >>> >>> Classroom rental: $50/event >>> >>> Power estimate: $300/mo. >>> >>> >>> >>> Assume our rent is $2100/mo., add power = $2400/mo. >>> >>> Assume remaining 19 members only pay $40/mo. = $760/mo. >>> >>> >>> >>> $1300 + $760 + $100 + $30 (estimate 3 servers being hosted) = >>> >>> $2190/mo. >>> >>> >>> >>> Therefore, we are actually $210 away from breaking even. ***However, >>> >>> this doesn't include the cost of insurance, which I believe Courtney >>> >>> will look into to see if the price would be changing.*** >>> >>> >>> >>> Now don't forget that we have ~$8000 in our bank. This can serve as >>> >>> the source of our discretionary spending month-to-month. I would put >>> >>> a limit of $400/mo. or something similar from these funds. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm confident that we can talk to the remaining 19 members and ask if >>> >>> they are willing to pay more than $40/mo. to help us out with this. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > -- > ) thor.robinson; > ) icon/phreshlyspun/ppca/skullspace > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GMU/O/AT d-s:+aC++++ULPL@E----W@N!oK?w--- > O-M--V?PS+++PEY+PGP+t5+XRtvb++DI++D++ > G+e*h--rx++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
