When somebody thanks you for doing something, please accept the thanks and
move on without placing guilt on everyone else that didn't help or rather
didn't help with this specific task.  This maybe just my opinion, but I
think It's this kind of "blaming and shaming" that is unhealthy for the
group.


Brian Kulyk
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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's a start, but it relies on optional charity. If our true operating
> costs are higher that listed dues will cover, it would make more sense to
> raise the dues, perhaps offering a reduced rate to those on a limited
> income.
>
> But more than regular expenses, it's the one-time repairs that keep
> getting paid by the same people over and over. We're very lucky they're so
> generous, but I fear it's generating ignorance &/or apathy.
>
> For example, it doesn't effectively matter if anyone washes their own
> dishes, so long as Nate washes them every week.
>
> It doesn't matter if the club can't afford to upgrade the security
> software, as long as Ian is willing to pay for it.
>
> We don't need to replace filters in the Brita jug if Ron is willing to buy
> a watercooler.
>
> That's their club now, not mine or yours.
> On May 17, 2013 4:45 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *"I think participation from more of the group would more effectively
>> show the true costs of setting up and maintaining the club... And would
>> encourage a sense of ownership and community among a larger portion of the
>> membership."*
>>
>> If I remember correctly, when Justin asked who would be willing to donate
>> above the $40 per month, back at the old space, the vast majority
>> volunteered more money. If that isn't exactly what you are saying should
>> happen than I don't know what is.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think it's healthy (financially or emotionally) to rely on
>>> subsidies from a small number of people.
>>>
>>> I think participation from more of the group would more effectively show
>>> the true costs of setting up and maintaining the club... And would
>>> encourage a sense of ownership and community among a larger portion of the
>>> membership.
>>>  On May 17, 2013 4:15 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013-05-17 15:11, Roswyne wrote:
>>>> > I dream of the day when the membership as a whole can participate in
>>>> group
>>>> > fundraising projects to meet our needs instead of being subsidized by
>>>> > angels with money to burn.
>>>> What's wrong with what we're doing, exactly?
>>>>
>>>> Ron
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