That is a very negative attitude Sui. Money and contributions should not equal ownership. A lot of people are volunteering time instead of money in the space. Any help should be appreciated, not seen as loss of ownership.
Positive initiatives are: Getting members Hosting events Cleaning the space Getting a grant Spreading the Skullspace name Looking for sponsorship Find positives in a situation and the things we can do in the future instead of knocing down the things happening now. On 2013-05-17 5:02 PM, "Roswyne" <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a start, but it relies on optional charity. If our true operating > costs are higher that listed dues will cover, it would make more sense to > raise the dues, perhaps offering a reduced rate to those on a limited > income. > > But more than regular expenses, it's the one-time repairs that keep > getting paid by the same people over and over. We're very lucky they're so > generous, but I fear it's generating ignorance &/or apathy. > > For example, it doesn't effectively matter if anyone washes their own > dishes, so long as Nate washes them every week. > > It doesn't matter if the club can't afford to upgrade the security > software, as long as Ian is willing to pay for it. > > We don't need to replace filters in the Brita jug if Ron is willing to buy > a watercooler. > > That's their club now, not mine or yours. > On May 17, 2013 4:45 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *"I think participation from more of the group would more effectively >> show the true costs of setting up and maintaining the club... And would >> encourage a sense of ownership and community among a larger portion of the >> membership."* >> >> If I remember correctly, when Justin asked who would be willing to donate >> above the $40 per month, back at the old space, the vast majority >> volunteered more money. If that isn't exactly what you are saying should >> happen than I don't know what is. >> >> >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't think it's healthy (financially or emotionally) to rely on >>> subsidies from a small number of people. >>> >>> I think participation from more of the group would more effectively show >>> the true costs of setting up and maintaining the club... And would >>> encourage a sense of ownership and community among a larger portion of the >>> membership. >>> On May 17, 2013 4:15 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2013-05-17 15:11, Roswyne wrote: >>>> > I dream of the day when the membership as a whole can participate in >>>> group >>>> > fundraising projects to meet our needs instead of being subsidized by >>>> > angels with money to burn. >>>> What's wrong with what we're doing, exactly? >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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