Great, but then other members don't know that they are making these assessments or on what basis.
I would rather the group agree on terms, and the board act according to them. On May 8, 2014 12:54 PM, "Adam Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > On May 8, 2014 12:32:43 PM CDT, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> OK, >> >> >> >> I want to enter the discussion here. I feel there should be two rates. >> Full and Reduced (50%). Everyone by default pays Full. However, the board >> will listen to individual cases and grant either a 6 month or 12 month >> Reduced Rate for that person. I think this would be more fair and empower >> the board to make decisions on a case-by-case basis. A person who is a >> student, full or part time and/or is under employed and/or other mitigating >> circumstances has an opportunity to plead their individual case to the >> board for a Reduced Rate. >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> on behalf of Roswyne < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* May 8, 2014 12:25 >> *To:* Skull Space Discussion List >> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] contribute your time >> >> >> If we're questioning what qualifies someone as a student to determine >> membership fees, surely it's even more important to validate current >> membership status before discounting class fees. >> >> It is important that we not only treat each other fairly, but that we >> also do so visibly and publicly. While I am not concerned about any current >> member defrauding us in such a way, by definition, only non-members could >> do so intentionally. However, a member in poor standing (arrears) would >> also presumably be ineligible, and could claim a discount either >> accidentally or intentionally. >> >> >> >> On May 8, 2014 10:45 AM, "Ron Bowes" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That's not a bylaw, it's a policy. That's an important legal >>> distinction. >>> >>> If it's a concern (which it isn't), we can rig up a place for people >>> to scan their keyfobs to verify membership. But that's silly. For a group >>> like ours, honour system is fine. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Different pricing for SkSp members would almost have to be on the >>>> honour system, since no list of members is permitted, according to our >>>> bylaws. >>>> >>>> Although I suppose you could test if someone's fob is active to verify >>>> their membership if they indicate they are a member. >>>> On May 8, 2014 10:17 AM, "Ron Bowes" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rylaan - we talked about doing that in the past (free/cheap for >>>>> members, not for non-members), and I'm 100% in favour. It just requires a >>>>> little more effort on the part of the organizer to figure out who's who(m) >>>>> and to collect money. Since our default stance is 'lazy', nobody's tried >>>>> it >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wanted to open it up all classes to the general public. Members get >>>>>> in free (or a drastically reduced rate depending on the class), and >>>>>> non-members pay. It shows off a membership benefit to non members, and >>>>>> the >>>>>> fee can go towards and teaching materials / teachers (if we had to bring >>>>>> in >>>>>> a non member teacher for something specific or for certification) that >>>>>> need >>>>>> to be paid for, and the rest of the money to be donated to skullspace. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, if the group is charging attendees a fee, I would more >>>>>>> strongly suggest a donation be made to SkSp. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 7, 2014 8:35 PM, "Ron Bowes" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like Alex said, if a member is present, it's free. If nobody is a >>>>>>>> sksp member and they want to use the space, it's still free, provided >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> fits with our goals (ie, no cross burning) but they need a member to >>>>>>>> babysit them. It's usually easy to find a volunteer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The more non-members who show up, the more we encourage a group >>>>>>>> to donate to us, or have an option entrance fee. But we don't enforce >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Free, as in money? We've never mandated any cost to use >>>>>>>>> SkullSpace's facilities. As long as a member is present, it's free. >>>>>>>>> Period. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ric Lim <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Somewhat related to this. Is our policy for classroom use still >>>>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>>>> for a group meeting with member(s) who are part of Skullspace? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/14, R Rodd <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Sounds great, Theo - I'm in! >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > "More learning? Yes please!" >>>>>>>>>> > On May 7, 2014 2:15 PM, "Theo Baschak" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> I have been prepping an "afternoon IPv6 workshop" since BSides >>>>>>>>>> basically, >>>>>>>>>> >> for a hackathon or perhaps even its own event. Oriented to >>>>>>>>>> network guys, >>>>>>>>>> >> server dudes, and perhaps even programmers, who want to be >>>>>>>>>> more aware of >>>>>>>>>> >> and get familiar (yes, hands on) with IPv6. Some of the topics: >>>>>>>>>> >> Addressing/Subnetting, new concepts (SLAAC, ULA, privacy >>>>>>>>>> addressing), >>>>>>>>>> >> v4/v6 >>>>>>>>>> >> rough equivalencies where they exist and the differences from >>>>>>>>>> v4, NO NEED >>>>>>>>>> >> FOR NAT (but you still can), what IPv6 looks/works like for >>>>>>>>>> home users, >>>>>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>>>>> >> name a few. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> There has been some interest expressed by others in both >>>>>>>>>> putting this on, >>>>>>>>>> >> and also in attending such a talk/workshop. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>>>> >> Theo >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > I'd be interested in doing a design 101 course.. and I >>>>>>>>>> imagine that >>>>>>>>>> >> > with a little advertising lots of people would also attend. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Rylaan Gimby < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >> That course was really exciting to me for the reason you >>>>>>>>>> mentioned, it >>>>>>>>>> >> ties >>>>>>>>>> >> >> the fundamental hardware concepts all the way to the >>>>>>>>>> software. The >>>>>>>>>> >> >> only >>>>>>>>>> >> >> thing we need to make sure of is that the test answers >>>>>>>>>> don't get out >>>>>>>>>> >> online. >>>>>>>>>> >> >> They use this in universities, so having homework answers >>>>>>>>>> online is a >>>>>>>>>> >> >> problem. >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> On May 3, 2014 1:37 PM, "R Rodd" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> I could teach that course for you, Rylaan, or co-teach as >>>>>>>>>> I know we >>>>>>>>>> >> have >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> several members skilled in the material covered by it and >>>>>>>>>> likely more >>>>>>>>>> >> than a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> few interested in teaching it. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> The video you linked mentioned it being a 12 week >>>>>>>>>> structure - I'm >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> game >>>>>>>>>> >> for >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> doing it over the summer but when would be best for >>>>>>>>>> yourself and >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> other >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> potential participants? >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> From the description in the video it is exactly the kind >>>>>>>>>> of course >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> that >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> should have been in my Comp. Eng. program in 2nd or 3rd >>>>>>>>>> year to "tie >>>>>>>>>> >> it all >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> together" .. fortunately for me I was doing similar >>>>>>>>>> projects in high >>>>>>>>>> >> school >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> and through the IEEE student group on campus. Those >>>>>>>>>> projects gave >>>>>>>>>> >> context >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> to the abstract theories covered in class. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> - Richard >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> On May 3, 2014 12:14 PM, "Rylaan Gimby" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> I have a Graphic Design 101 course that I've been >>>>>>>>>> planning for >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> years. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> Maybe it's time to put it on. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> I also just received the teaching materials for this >>>>>>>>>> course, >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> http://www.nand2tetris.org/ I don't know if I have the >>>>>>>>>> technical >>>>>>>>>> >> abilities >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> to put it on though, since I would be learning myself. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Adrian Stoness >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> id be down for that rhinoceros corse been yrs since i >>>>>>>>>> last looked >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> ath >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> that program >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> on another note justing i got a photo going up at this >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.labiennale.org/en/architecture/news/25-01.html?back=true >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Justin Lacko < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> We may not be fully sustainable on our own yet, but I >>>>>>>>>> think that >>>>>>>>>> >> with >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> each passing month we are getting closer and closer to >>>>>>>>>> that goal. >>>>>>>>>> >> In the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> time since I've left I've seen many new names be added >>>>>>>>>> to the list >>>>>>>>>> >> of >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> members. I think there would be cause for concern if >>>>>>>>>> that wasn't >>>>>>>>>> >> happening, >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> but it is. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> As Mark said, SkSp will always be about people donating >>>>>>>>>> their time >>>>>>>>>> >> (and >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> their money) to the continuation of the space. But this >>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> proven >>>>>>>>>> >> business >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> model for orgs such as ours and I think we should >>>>>>>>>> continue to >>>>>>>>>> >> embrace it. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> I think I mentioned it in the past that in my >>>>>>>>>> experience of >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> sitting >>>>>>>>>> >> on >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> a different board, that organization met at a >>>>>>>>>> semi-private school. >>>>>>>>>> >> Each time >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> we had a meeting, we made a resolution to donate $40 or >>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>> >> to the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> school, in exchange for letting us use their >>>>>>>>>> facilities. That >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> board >>>>>>>>>> >> had >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> money in the bank, so I wouldn't expect it from every >>>>>>>>>> org that >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>> >> our >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space, but I think it's the right attitude towards >>>>>>>>>> using our >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space. >>>>>>>>>> >> A >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> gentle, non-direct request for donations in exchange >>>>>>>>>> for our >>>>>>>>>> >> facilities >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> wouldn't hurt anybody - and nobody would be obliged to >>>>>>>>>> donate if >>>>>>>>>> >> they >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> couldn't/didn't want to. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> As much as there's shared worries about the financial >>>>>>>>>> future of >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> space, it seems like we are on the right track, and now >>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> re-focus our sustainability strategies on growing our >>>>>>>>>> membership >>>>>>>>>> >> base >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> through value-added content, like workshops and >>>>>>>>>> circuit-bending >>>>>>>>>> >> nights and >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> everything else. In the future, it would be greatly >>>>>>>>>> satisfying to >>>>>>>>>> >> see a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> calendar with an event/workshop almost every night - >>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> hacker-themed cooking classes to PGP how-tos to CTFs >>>>>>>>>> etc etc - >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> >> will be >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> the draw for people to join and donate their time. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> If I'm around in August, feel free to put me down for a >>>>>>>>>> >> multi-evening >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> course teaching Rhinoceros 3D modeling and VRay >>>>>>>>>> rendering skills! >>>>>>>>>> >> I'll help >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> out with SkSp however I can. And of course Friday night >>>>>>>>>> movie >>>>>>>>>> >> nights :) >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> -Justin >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 3 May 2014 01:33, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees >>>>>>>>>> were paid to >>>>>>>>>> >> SkSp >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> a thank-you for using the space. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I see it more than just thank-you but as respectful >>>>>>>>>> rent decided >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> upfront -- if she's making money teaching to mostly >>>>>>>>>> non-members >>>>>>>>>> >> then >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Skullspace deserves a cut for its contribution. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> It's different if is someone is charging money for a >>>>>>>>>> members-only >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> workshop (then Skullspace needs no rent as Skullspace >>>>>>>>>> is getting >>>>>>>>>> >> value by a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> member specific or member discounted service being >>>>>>>>>> delivered) or >>>>>>>>>> >> if the room >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> is used by something like a usergroup (where nobody is >>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>> >> paid). >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> For usergroups with hacker worthy subject matter, we >>>>>>>>>> might not >>>>>>>>>> >> want to >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> go as far as asking rent, but to make a requirement >>>>>>>>>> that they >>>>>>>>>> >> circulate a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> collection donation cup/hat/pot to their attendees >>>>>>>>>> each time they >>>>>>>>>> >> use the >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> room. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Even our internal events with non-members showing up >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> >> include a >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> good cup passing beg moment when we've got the crowd >>>>>>>>>> in our >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> palms. >>>>>>>>>> >> 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in others. > > The complement to this is that anytime you have people making decisions on > the basis of their own opinions, there must be an avenue of appeal. > > -Adam > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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