This morning at 6.30am I could get any BBC Radio feeds via my Logitech Squeeze devices or Window Media Player using the normal asx streams (listed below) or the iPlayer high quality ones. This is the worse this problem has ever been. Normally I can get one radio station (excepting the almost always reliable Word Service) if I try hard enough, usually via the iPLayer high quality live streams). The error received is:
"Error: No items found in Playlist" (even on the occasions when a stream connects this error often flashes up mometarily). Unfortunately attempting to diagnose the problem is made difficult by the the various services involved. It might even be that the true problem is due to a combination of the factors below: 1) ISP. MY ISP, the UK's Plusnet performs heavy (intelligent?) bandwidth shaping that has caused me issue with my Squeeze devices and BBC feeds in the past. In the small testing I've done I have not experienced (as yet) the same errors conecting via UK ISP Nildram. 2) BBC playlists - they are quite complicated (and UK specific), listing multiple stream in any one playlist. 3) Squeezebox interpretation of these playlist (it's possible that the Squeeze devices have worse problems than Windows media Player for instance). 4) BBC data transit paths (internet routing), reliance on third parties and peering relationships (again complicated and stuff I don't really understand). As the way that the BBC delivers their playlists is country specific, i.e. the UK receives different streams from the rest of the world, the problem can only be properly looked into by someone connecting to the Internet via a UK IP address (which rules out all the Logitech developers afaik). If (as I suspect) the problem is (at the least) exabberated by the PlusNet bandwidth shaping them this makes things even tougher to work out. If anyone could supply any input I'd appreciate it. These are the things that might help: 1) Anyone who uses UK ISP Plusnet and listens to the BBC streams below via their Squeeze devices. Escpecially useful would be someone who has simultaneous access to Plusnet and another UK ISP. 2) Someone to tell me what Squeeze debugging option to turn on to log the SqueezeServer connection to the BBC streams 3) Anyone from the UK who can open one of the playlists below (preferably Radio 4) to reveal its contents (and paste in this thread) 4) Anyone who uses the BBC streams listed below from a UK ISP very frequently (and expecially before 8.00am, as I am almost certain the problem is worse between 6.30 and and 8.00am) Here are the playlists in question (I am going to ignore the iPlayer high quality live streams for the moment so as to not muddy the waters. They also seem a bit less problematic). http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r1.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r2.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r3.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r5l.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r6.asx http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r7.asx Any help appreciated, especially from any Plusnet users who have simultaneous access to other UK ISPs (as I am becoming more and more convinced that Plusnet is a big factor in this problem). Thanks for reading this. MC -- ModelCitizen Think the third party Squeeze plugins and applets are important? Then 'vote for bug 14194' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14194) so more can be made. Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68570 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
