MrSinatra;584019 Wrote:
>
> imo, logitech should have three main pieces of hardware:
>
> 1. a player
> 2. a server
> 3. a combo of the two
>
This all sounds good, the problem is to have an architecture that
supports all these and still be able to set a low price on it. The
combo (point 3) is especially problematic as it needs the display of 1
and the CPU/memory power of 2.
I believe they need to choose. Either they focus on the player and
server as separate products or they focus on the combo product. The
Touch is proof of that a decently priced combo product with the current
architecture results in a combo product with to slow CPU/memory. The
problem is that if the Touch would have better hardware and priced at
$399 it would have got too expensive for the mass market. Even $299 is
too high for the mass market since they don't understand the needs for
the advanced features it offers.
MrSinatra;584019 Wrote:
>
> i totally reject this. people aren't buying the SBC for good reason,
> it costs too much and does too little! but forget that, no one had an
> iphone or ipod b/c someone, in this case pippin, eventually made a SBS
> remote app for it. and even more to the point, logitech didn't do it,
> so now pippin (and others) get the reward for having done so! logitech
> gets nothing!
>
> this slim stuff isn't a competitor for ipods and iphones. come on.
>
> your argument would be like microsoft saying they won't make Office for
> Mac b/c that promotes people to buy Macs. they rejected that line of
> thinking, and for good reason.
>
> agreed. but is that where the market is? should logitech not offer
> BOTH options? what is the point of restricting your sales to ONLY
> apple haters? and if you do that, if thats your philosophy, why
> integrate with itunes?
>
Remember that Logitech is a hardware company that earns its money on
the hardware, not the software. If they had an iOS app they could maybe
sell it for $5 if it was really good. What do you think they earn on a
single sold Squeezebox ? I bet it's a lot more than $5.
What I'm trying to say is that since they won't make much money on a
iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch software, they could just spend this money
marketing the already available third party solutions. This way they
would get the benefits through more sold Squeezeboxes without having to
do an investment in porting SP to iOS.
MrSinatra;584019 Wrote:
>
> sorry, but as an american, that offends my way of thinking. thats pure
> fatalism. in america, we don't normally cede ANYTHING to our
> competitors. we fight. we may not win, but we try.
>
It's not about giving up, it's about selecting the path that makes it
easiest to increase the hardware sells and the path that makes your
products look as good as possible. Marketing the existing iOS apps
feels a lot easier than trying to port SP in this regard.
MrSinatra;584019 Wrote:
>
> the idea that logitech could not have say, HIRED PIPPIN! ...or someone
> like him to do what he has done, is nonsense! logitech could have owned
> the SBS remote app marketplace if they were prepared.
>
I believe they have tried to hire him, fortunately they didn't succeed.
I'm 100% sure iPeng wouldn't have been what it is today if it was
controlled by Logitech.
They also had a user interface designer for a while which they managed
to loose when they decreased the resources in the Squeezebox team to
bare minimum.
Anyway, I'm not sure there is any point discussing all this because
it's not like anyone from Logitech management reads these posts.
It's a delicate situation because Logitech have the choice to:
1. Compete with established HiFi manufacturers in the high-end audio
market, something that's definitely out of their current target
market.
2. Compete with Apple and Sonos which is a lot more focused at music
than Logitech.
3. Compete with mass market online radio devices like Chumby and
generic UPnP players where the current Squeezebox architecture is more
advanced than needed.
None of these roads feels easy to me, so it's not an easy choice for
them.
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