vortecjr wrote: > This conversation is relevant. You are just making generalizations > without thinking things thru or researching them. Your kind of thinking > is what limited the Touch and Transport to 96k and the Sonos to 44.1k. > Your building a product here and you should IMO be pushing the envelope > to attract as many people as possible. This product needs to support at > least 384k to allow support for DSD128 via DoP. You need to support this > not because you personally need it, not because of the "up market audio > companies", not because of popularity, not because of available content, > but because you can. BTW I have a running poll over on CA and so far > 96.43% have voted that they want DSD support with there next purchase. > Currently there are 45 products (up from 4-5 in just about year) in the > market that support DSD. These products range from well priced to very > expensive. Just about every computer audio player worth talking about > supports high sample rates and DSD. There are a bunch of download sites > that support hi-res and DSD downloads. > > The way to get native DSD files from SACD is to rip them via a modified > PS3. I don't know anyone recording digital from an OPPO:) > > Jesus R > > PS Here is a link to my DSD DataBase: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgVhKcl_3lHfdFVyenBBNjNpQ2lieG81WGpqQTNfVUE#gid=0
Thank you for replying, and for incorporating your DSD DataBase link. Interesting. My comments below I make just to show you there are many ways to view the "market", and many ways to achieve satisfactory results, and yours is an opinion among others (just as mine are). I'm not quite aware that I limited the resolution or sampling rate in my statement, but perhaps you can point that out. The "limited thinking" that resulted in the Touch was fairly successful, and in my opinion very elegantly achieved at a reasonable cost. "You are just making generalizations without thinking things thru or researching them." How can you be so sure, rather than making an assumption, in which case you are making the same mistake that you are claiming I'm making. ;-D "This product needs to support at least 384k to allow support for DSD128 via DoP. You need to support this not because you personally need it, not because of the "up market audio companies", not because of popularity, not because of available content, but because you can." There are many philosophies that you can base a product on. This doesn't mean that yours is the only one, or even the right one, however strongly you claim it. Just because it's possible doesn't mean that you need to do it, which you are claiming, however thrilling or seductive that may be. Being out in the front of what is possible, enabling the latest and greatest a lot of people find attractive. Popularity has to be at least sufficiently high to recover the cost and complexity (investment in time, construction etc), or else you'll have a technically perfect product that doesn't have an audience, or by the time it's done, the avant garde has already moved on. "I don't know anyone recording digital from an OPPO" Well, there can be many reasons for that (e.g. you have to get the Oppo, and the board for digital out, and what equipment is there to capture it on the PC etc etc.) or are you suggesting that since you don't know anyone that does it, it is not worthwhile? Or are you saying it is a techically inferior solution, etc etc or are you saying you don't know enough people, which at least is a possibilty? It could also be because the solution I listed doesn't have an audience large enough, i e it isn't selling in sufficient numbers, but it could still be technically a really good solution. "Rip them via a modified PS3." I know it was possible on pre 2007 PS3s. Is it possible post Firmware 3.55? I understand it's not possible to roll back, but as you suggested in the beginning it may be because I have not done enough research. That is is actually very exciting! I would appreciate a link if you have one! The Oppo with the 6 channels digital board is available today, BTW, which is why I mentioned it in the first place. It's just one solution, among many. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gadgety1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
