Gadgety1 wrote: > Thank you for replying, and for incorporating your DSD DataBase link. > Interesting.
I put this together so I could get my hands around things... Gadgety1 wrote: > My comments below I make just to show you there are many ways to view > the "market", and many ways to achieve satisfactory results, and yours > is an opinion among others (just as mine are). I'm not quite aware that > I limited the resolution or sampling rate in my statement, but perhaps > you can point that out. Understood, Gadgety1 wrote: > The "limited thinking" that resulted in the Touch was fairly successful, > and in my opinion very elegantly achieved at a reasonable cost. I agree and I actually like the things. The cost is incredible for what you get if you think about it. I don't think adding 192k support would not have changed the cost much if anything at all. Gadgety1 wrote: > "You are just making generalizations without thinking things thru or > researching them." > > How can you be so sure, rather than making an assumption, in which case > you are making the same mistake that you are claiming I'm making. ;-D I'll give you that one:) Gadgety1 wrote: > "This product needs to support at least 384k to allow support for DSD128 > via DoP. You need to support this not because you personally need it, > not because of the "up market audio companies", not because of > popularity, not because of available content, but because you can." > > There are many philosophies that you can base a product on. This doesn't > mean that yours is the only one, or even the right one, however strongly > you claim it. Just because it's possible doesn't mean that you need to > do it, which you are claiming, however thrilling or seductive that may > be. Being out in the front of what is possible, enabling the latest and > greatest a lot of people find attractive. Popularity has to be at least > sufficiently high to recover the cost and complexity (investment in > time, construction etc), or else you'll have a technically perfect > product that doesn't have an audience, or by the time it's done, the > avant garde has already moved on. The basic frame work is in place and will not significantly alter cost. What is needed is to embrace the idea and look out for instances where support can be added to allow its use. For example: If you are setting up the driver for i2s output to a header remember that DSD signals can be multiplied via that header. If someone is going to work on a decoder remember that a DoP to DSD decoder is needed to output native DSD on that header. Gadgety1 wrote: > "I don't know anyone recording digital from an OPPO" Well, there can be > many reasons for that (e.g. you have to get the Oppo, and the board for > digital out, and what equipment is there to capture it on the PC etc > etc.) or are you suggesting that since you don't know anyone that does > it, it is not worthwhile? Or are you saying it is a techically inferior > solution, etc etc or are you saying you don't know enough people, which > at least is a possibilty? It could also be because the solution I listed > doesn't have an audience large enough, i e it isn't selling in > sufficient numbers, but it could still be technically a really good > solution. It's a ton of work to record disks this way because you have to listen to the entire disk and master things. Then you have to tag, get cover art and manage the archive. Besides, I don't think you get DSD out of that process so you end up with a conversion. Also, remember the DSD2PCM conversion is not lossless. In real time playback you don't care because it solves a problem and you have the original anyway until such time that you can use it in native format. Gadgety1 wrote: > "Rip them via a modified PS3." I know it was possible on pre 2007 PS3s. > Is it possible post Firmware 3.55? Is it possible with PS3s currently > being sold? I understand it's not possible to roll back, but as you > suggested in the beginning it may be because I have not done enough > research. That is is actually very exciting! I would appreciate a link > if you have one! You need a pre 3.55 and not on current models....they got smart on us. Here are some links: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/sacd-ripping-using-your-ps3-part-2-a-7495/ and http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/ Gadgety1 wrote: > The Oppo with the 6 channels digital board is available today, BTW, > which is why I mentioned it in the first place. It's just one solution, > among many. You can also try the 2 channel version of that product. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
