Hi all, We learned recently that Amazon offers an education credit ($30-$200, renewable annually). This is probably not practical for a workshop and is a bit clunky in that you have to set up an AWS educate login in addition to your AWS login. The program is not widely advertised so I thought I'd mention it here. It works -- my first bill after enrolling was covered by the credit.
https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/ Mark ------------------------------ Mark J. Mandel, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Microbiology-Immunology Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine 320 E. Superior St., Searle<x-apple-data-detectors://2> 3-403 Chicago, IL 60611 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://www.mandellab.org<http://www.mandellab.org/> (312) 503-4138<tel:(312)%20503-4138> Office (312) 503-2915<tel:(312)%20503-2915> Lab (312) 503-9594<tel:(312)%20503-9594> Fax Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Tracy Teal <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Fotis, For the Data Carpentry Genomics workshops, we have an Education grant from Amazon. So, we use the Data Carpentry account and spin up instances for you for the workshop. Then the workshop participants just ssh in to the instances. We specifically don't have people spin up their own instances in the workshop because of the time it would take to go through that process and some of the issues that Titus mentions. We do provide documentation on how to spin up the instances<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jasonjwilliamsny.github.io_cloud-2Dgenomics_logging-2Donto-2Dcloud.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=vFSZR1ibotqdi_6pTnblZ2AuXzcc11WtyLnxUyGPmck&e=> though, so that after the workshop, people can work through that on their own for their own work, and when they have more time. Some places also teach the Genomics workshop on their local HPC resources and we're also looking into using Jetstream<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__jetstream-2Dcloud.org&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=fVn9ChLKrhCBE2En9B0EmJfMvOxsPjWNnsGA3fFFvWw&e=>. We want to teach something that people will have access to after the workshop, and Amazon is something that is generally available, but the point is to introduce people to the idea of remote computing, so it's just one of many options. Best, -Tracy On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: That's actually really useful Titus - thanks a lot for sharing this! Last time I had the process with AWS done was last May, so that's why I had the wrong impression. This also means that we probably need to find a working solution for preparing participants for the DC genomics lesson. Regards, Fotis -----Original Message----- From: C. Titus Brown [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:11 PM To: Jaime Ashander <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Fotis E. Psomopoulos <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Software Carpentry Discussion <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Discuss] AWS cost for genomics lesson Apologies if this is a bit off-topic, but: Note that in recent months (at least the last 4 months or so) you will be blocked from starting up a new AWS instance for at least the first few hours after you first try, until they verify your account. Presumably this is to stop people from creating fake accounts and running up compute before being caught. This puts a serious monkey wrench in any workshop that doesn't have people sign up *and try to start a new instance at least the night before the workshop*. (This change in AWS practice happened sometime around our workshop at Scripps Institute of Oceanograph, https://2016-metagenomics-sio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__2016-2Dmetagenomics-2Dsio.readthedocs.io_en_latest_&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=yIMc2GjQtZnCK767L5UYNk7ZH0z4P-svh31oEocx1xE&e=>, so before October 12, 2016. We had 17 people unable to start their instances. Fun fun fun!) I've talked to some AWS folk about it and so far there has been nothing they could do other than take a list of accounts to prevalidate (which didn't work the one time we tried to do it). Largely for this reason, I'm going to seriously try out JetStream as an alternative to AWS in the next few months. best, --titus On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:00:23PM -0800, Jaime Ashander wrote: > For the recommended instance type, t2.medium, (per > http://www.datacarpentry.org/genomics-workshop/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.datacarpentry.org_genomics-2Dworkshop_&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=PFs82bDCZOEcNTvN7rxdMHnMR43cmSDQWokbEfMQe6s&e=> > ) the current costs in > N VA (per > https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aws.amazon.com_ec2_pricing_on-2Ddemand_&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=CV6_F7xSEsQhrNf50NYpcdSTlcGDunuLEfa1T-WJIlc&e=> > ): > > t2.medium 2 Variable 4 EBS Only $0.047 per Hour > - Jaime > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Fotis E. Psomopoulos < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > If none (or at least the majority) of the participants have a > > previous AWS account, they will be eligible for the free tier ??? > > essentially they will have to create an amazon account (and probably > > give their credit card > > details) but there will be no cost for using the cloud resources. > > > > > > > > That was the case on both times I participated to the DC genomics > > lesson, so it might as well be true in other instances as well. > > > > > > > > Just my two cents??? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Fotis > > > > > > > > *From:* Discuss > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > > *On Behalf Of > > *Strong, Dena L > > *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 9:12 PM > > *To:* Christopher Hamm > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>- > > carpentry.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__carpentry.org&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=J4XBKGoxHu8NAURu0OELtAWGhoAdhGjpCQQvT1j9HUQ&m=UYPIde0H3SjXxTZxVQUposnXn--EKu7smM-G6RcedgY&s=q-cS89DyfF8gX7dyIOxmZ8FkZnHtXNGC_OewHN87vs8&e=> > > *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] AWS cost for genomics lesson > > > > > > > > I can???t speak specifically to the Data Carpentry experience, but > > when we???ve done full day AWS training for groups of 20-30 IT Pros > > at our university, the whole cost for everyone for the day was > > approximately $3. 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