I guess I should clarify a bit. I use tiger a lot as though it were windows. I noticed that the default was not to have all the cursors inversely linked, but only linked one way. I tried it that way for a while. I experimented with different combinations of linkage. For instance, I looked at my empty deleted items command issue through this process and found no solution there. I tried having the cursors unlinked and moving them manually and this yielded no results. I seldom use vo keys for dialogs but when I get the dialog for emptying deleted messages, I will try and use vo keys when I cannot tab through it. It sometimes works and some times does not and it seems to be related to how much needs to be deleted although I don't know why that should be the case. One thing I have not tried is to turn off the spoken alert to see if for some reason vo is being trapped as a result of it. There's another dialog that behaves similarly, but I don't remember off hand what it is.

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Jonnie Apple Seed
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On Jan 4, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jerry Halatyn wrote:

And I have found linking cursors to be more problematic. Isn't it great that we have options? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Empty Deleted Items in Mail


Travis and all,

I found not having all cursors linked to be more problematical than solution oriented.

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Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s


On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

And here folks is one reason I do not have all my cursors stuck together. I get thhis kind of behavior quite often, and not just in mail. When it happens, I simply move vo cursor to one of thhe other ones (keyboard focus, or mouse cursor) and the problem goes away. I don't know what causes this behavior, but sometimes it is quite anoying. However, generally, simply moving vo to another cursor solves the problem quite well. Lately I've been having this difficulty in safari. When clicking on links that pop-up windows, or load audio contents, safari gets stuck in the same rut, and then routing vo to another cursor is the only way to fix it other than closing and reopening safari. <sigh> But it's only a minor anoyance.
On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Tom,

I believe that you are confused by this thread. I understand the concept of moving items between mailboxes and such and the idea of selecting all messages in a specific mailbox as a way to delete them. What we are speaking of here is the "Erase Deleted Messages" menu item under the MailBox menu. This menu item has a keyboard shortcut of cmd+k as well. When you attempt to use the cmd+k method, which of course has the fewest key strokes, you get the issue we were speaking of. It says "Dialog for InBox, Messages Table" or something very similar. It appears to stay locked in this screen until you do something that redraws the window or VO is turned off and on again. Closing the InBox and re-opening it seems to be one method that works to remedy this.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
    & Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

















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