That's no good. I'm trying but just can't get it to break and
recreate the bad behavior you and Jane are encountering. I'll give up
for now. :-)
Joe
On Mar 1, 2006, at 8:01 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
Joe,
Yes, before the updates, it worked and now it's broken.
-- Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Hmmm. Wonder why I can't get it to break. Are you running Mac OS
10.4.5 and Safari 2.0.3?
Joe
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:50 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I'm not jane, but that window speaks exactly as described. It's
like something's covered it up.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Hi Jane,
That's goofy. Do you hear VoiceOver say "list" when you navigate
to the Safari Downloads Window? Even if the list in the Downloads
Window is empty you should always hear: "Download. Window. Three
items. List."
Joe
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:
Hi Joe. It must be a quirk on my end, then, because I never see
that after I get back to the window after canceling Safari from
quitting. Really weird. No list, nothing like that.
Jane
On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Hi Jane,
I'm running Mac OS 10.4.5, Safari 2.0.3 with VoiceOver. Same
setup as you if I remember correctly.
Regarding the Safari Downloads Window:
There are always three items available for VO in the Safari
Downloads Window.
One of those items is always a list. This, as you know, is the
list of files downloaded or in the process of downloading.
If you are in the process of downloading a file, the file you
are downloading is added to the Downloads Window List.
If you attempt to Quit Safari while a download is in progress -
Safari will present you with a message dialog which reads: "A
download is in progress. Are you sure you wan to quit?
If you select "Don't Quit" the file will immediately resume
downloading.
As long as the file is downloading, VO will let you know that
the "Download is in progress" when you navigate to the Downloads
Window. If you interact with the group for the downloading file
you will have the following information available to you:
1. Name of the file
2. File icon button
3. Stop Button
4. Show in Finder Button
5. Amount of file already downloaded vs. total download size.
While download is progress, VO will also play a "ticking" noise
whenever you select the download progress information (cool
feature!).
If the above information is not available to you, file download
is complete.
I'm not sure what you mean by "checking the desktop." A file
placeholder is always placed on the desktop (or wherever you're
downloading) so there's no help there and no indication from VO
as to download progress when you check the file on t he desktop.
I suspect that you are downloading a small file. When you Quit
Safari and then cancel the Quit (as you described) the small
file finishes downloading before you navigate back to the
Downloads Window...and there lies the source of the confusion.
If the file download is complete the following information will
be available when you interact with Downloads Window list group
- then interact with the group for the downloaded file:
1. Name of the file
2. File icon button
3. 'Show in Finder' Button
4. Size of the downloaded file
I hope the information helps!
Joe
On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:
Hi Scott. There's a bit of a misunderstanding here.
this only happens if I hit the command to quit Safari *while* a
download is in progress. When I cancel Safari from quitting
and I go back into the downloads window, I get a three items
button, but nothing else. The only way I know at that point if
the file is done is by constantly checking the desktop.
Jane
On Mar 1, 2006, at 4:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
I think it was Jane who metnioned she didn't have any means to
interact with the group when in the download screen while
Safari is downloading. Actually while the download is going
on, you can interact with the list and get status on what's
happening. WHen the download is finished, you can no longer
interact with the list, but the download is completed. I do
not know why this window does not close, but it should in my
opinion. I think this isn't a bug per say, but it would make
sense for it to close. Now it is possible there's some message
or some status info on that screen, but since we can't get at
it, the window might as well be closed. Might put this in as
an enhancement to Safari, VO, or both.
Scott
