Joe, yes in fact it does matter. I did a few tests.
1. I set Katieplayer to use Fred which is the default voice I use for
VO.
2. Went into the sleep settings menu and it worked perfectly, but yes
Katieplayer's voice and VO's voice must be set the same. It doesn't
seem to matter if you have other voices set for other parts of VO or
the system etc.
3. I turned VO off and set a different voice in KatiePlayer and it
worked just fine.
4. I set Katieplayer's voice differently from VO while it was off and
as soon as I turned VO on, it killed the speech in the sleep options
menu.
5. Turning VO back off had no affect and speech was gone while in the
sleep options menu and so had to quit the program
I did notice you guys get more speed from the voices than VO does
itself. WOuld be nice if Apple would allow for a greater range in speed.
So that solves teh mystery.
tnx
Scott
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Scott,
That works great for me. I bypass with VO-keys + TAB so I can open
Sleep panel with Control + Option + S. Navigation and speech works
for me in the Sleep panel (TAB and SHIFT-TAB to get around). You
know though, I wonder if it matters that I have both katieplayer
and VO set to use the Vicki voice. I'll have to test to find out.
Also, for troubleshooting purposes, if you haven't already, you may
want to quit and relaunch katieplayer before trying again.
I have some coding to do for a bit but will come back to this.
Joe
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Thanks Scott. I'll give it a shot.
Joe
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Ah Joe, just hit VO-keys + tab and that acts as a bypass key and
that should get you into the menu. What happens if you do this?
Do you consistantly get the menu to speak?
tnx
Scott
On Mar 11, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Hi Scott,
Interesting, I can't get Sleep pane to come up at all due to key
command conflict with VO...just get a ding. Again, we'll need to
change this key command to avoid the conflict. TAB and SHIFT-TAB
should work OK to navigate through the Sleep pane. To get out of
the Sleep pane you need to TAB to the OK button then press
Return to click the button. Again, replacing this dialog with a
VO navigable dialog (as we are doing now) will mean that your
global, VO speech settings apply and you can use VO navigation
rather than katie's built in speech and dialog navigation. The
Keys Manager dialog is an example of a dialog which has been
replaced for compatibility with VO. With no book loaded, you can
open the Keys Manager dialog by clicking Command + K and try it
out with VoiceOver. Ultimately, katieplayer will not do any self-
voicing and will rely completely on VoiceOver.
Joe
On Mar 11, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Ok I stand corrected, the sleep menu did come up. I needed to
slow the speech down a little to hear the menu choices and then
I couldn't use the tab key to navigate the choices. Also, I
wasn't sure how to get out of the sleep menu to get back to the
book. Any help appreciated.
tnx
Scott
