I agree with Danny,

Voice Over has a lot going for it, and yes their are things that I wish it didn't do, and yes in some instances I miss Windows, but overall, th Mac OS is a much more stable system, and personally for myself as a blind user, it is I think more intuitive. Give Apple time.

I will say htat there are a few litle annoyances with VOice Over, such as this back space issue, and the constant need to interact with many things.

On the issue o the back space situation if you interact with the html portion of th mesage if you hold down option shift and left arow you can highlight the word you made the mistake in and re-type it.

Best Wishes

James
On 30 Jun 2006, at 21:25, Danny Crone wrote:

I think that it would be too soon for someone to give up on Apple.
Screen-readers have been around for years in the windows world.
Apple's attempt at making their system usable is less than two years ruunning.
We should all voice our feelings about these things to Apple.
Then we should see how things go from there.
Remembeer, Apple has the only access solution that works from the compact disk. If we choose to quit using Apple, why should Apple keep improving Voice Over?
On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

I have to admit, this issue has put me right off using Apple Mail and Apple's new approach is forcing me to re-evaluate my plans. I was going to buy an IMac later this year. But given what they've now done to VO, I'm having to think twice. I agree with you, this is utterly crazy, and for me at least, it's a show-stopper.

On 30 Jun 2006, at 01:35, David Poehlman wrote:


Now how the hell can it be logical, if you can't hear the damned character your deleting in word mode, oh geez please surely they were joking. The only way it might work is if you hit backspace and wait to hear what the hell you are left with. This isn't logical, but insane.


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On Jun 29, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

I contacted Apple about this yesterday and they've told me that they do this in word mode by design. They say it's logical. In my view, however, this is a very big step backward.

At 10:14 29/06/2006 -0700, Dan Keys said:
Hi,
Something else to ad to the backspace function. If the mail message is origional, the backspace works properly, but if it is a reply, the
backspace does not work the way we think it should.

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