I am fully sighted, and have been exploring VO since this last winter.  I am
not a software developer. I am a Mac consultant, I am very familiar to
sighted usage. I had no prior experience with screen reading. I now
volunteer VO and Mac access instruction to the Santa Barbara Braille
Institute. I still find frustration in reading websites, but can navigate
around the computer very well.

For sighted people VO shows tracking by drawing a box around the item,
additionally we can have a window that shows the audible interface as text.
When I use VO I try to not use a mouse and stay on the keyboard.

When I become a bit more masterful with this I hope to be helpful on this
list. As is, you are welcome to make use of my sight, ask and I will attempt
to explore and discover solutions.


Woody





On 9/11/06 5:29 AM, "David Poehlman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Our talking interface thread which is splendid thanks to all who've
> made positive and thoughtful contributions, has spawned another idea
> which I'm hoping will also spawn a fine and thoughtful discussion.
> 
> I'm calling out to those Mac Folk who are not blind who use VO for
> one reason or another.
> 
> We've talked about the fact that every Mac comes with VO built in.
> I've run into folk who don't even know this and have gotten Macs
> since VO began to appear on them.  Some others say they've played
> with it a bit, but What I want to look at here is how easy it can be
> to test development work with VO.  Are you prone to turn VO on and
> point and click?  If so, would this be enough?  If development is
> going to have any validity for folk who do not use VO but want to
> test with it, VO needs to work sort of like a Sighted person who uses
> the computer works.  Most folk are not going to want to learn the
> interface just so they can test their code.
> 
> The answer to the divide may be VO but as has been pointed out, we
> aren't there yet and this I believe is partly due to the fact that we
> have been on a path of rrequirement to use a different approach and
> interface on all platforms and in all instances.
> 
> At any rate, if you are not a person who is blind and you use VO,
> please share your thoughts?  If you know someone who uses VO who is
> not blind, Please invite them to share their thoughts or forward with
> permission.
> 
> Thanks!



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