I think it has, without a doubt been disappointing and frustrating that iTunes 7 did not give us any more accessibility. I also believe it is the best music program and I wish that I could do more with it. However, it's not an accessibility "show stopper" to me. As has been said by others, I have no doubt it will get there. I am of the mind, as I have been told by several software developers that there are a few factors involved that have already been mentioned. Some folks choose to call this "excuse making" or Apple "apologist" thinking, but software development cycles can carry over for sometimes 18 to 24 months down the road. Is this the case with iTunes? I have no idea, but I will not Assume either.

I think that the commitment by Apple to accessibility firmly shown by Steve Jobs, regardless of what some folks on this list want to deny or ignore, is our best indication that iTunes will be made accessible. Remember, folks, only 10 features of Leopard were shown or talked about at WWDC. Don't assume about what you Think won't be fixed or even what will. It's like anything else, unfortunately. We'll just have to wait, continue to make our dissatisfaction known to the accessibility team and keep the faith. If you want to believe there is no commitment from Apple, that's your call, but I feel otherwise. Anyone who knows me off this list knows that I'm one of the most cynical, doubting Thomas's in the world, yet, from what I've observed and heard, iTunes included, Apple will respond to the question of accessibility in the end.

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On Sep 15, 2006, at 10:47 PM, LARRY WANGER wrote:

iTunes holds a huge majority and percentage of the market for music player use. A big part of that is because it can easily manage and let you subscribe to podcasts, search for new ones, shop for music, movies, television shows and so much more. Further, its the easiest and best way to work with an iPod. Is it essential? No but it sure is a nice program and I for one appreciate being able to use it both for entertainment and as a platform to get my podcast out to folks. As for a more powerful word processor and spread sheet program; I don't fault Apple. Microsoft could easily choose to make Office work with the Mac but doesn't.


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Hi folks,

I'd like to further add to Ruth's comment about a spread sheet, we also need a word processor that is more powerful than text edit.

Also, although Apple's primary music player is not accessable, there are other music players that can play everything htat ITunes can. So could someone please explain, and I am not being difficult, why ITunes is so important, other than it is Apple's primary player?
Thanks

James

"Access to communication in the widest sense is access to knowledge" - Louis Braille 1848 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loebl, Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Notice that all programs that are important to productivity already
are accessible for us...

Do we have a spreadsheet application that can be used with VoiceOver? This is certainly a productivity program where I work! I haven't seen
many comments about it on this list though, compared with the iTunes
thing (which I agree is outrageous).

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