I'm not going to bat for Gabe. I don't think this is about him. For me, it's
about the rest of us.
You know what? I'm going to unsubscribe if he is NOT allowed to re-subscribe
because I don't want to be a part of a community that is so intolerant.
What do you think of that?
It is important for people to understand that they are responsible for their
own actions. Gabe Vega (whatever) never forced anyone to argue with him. He
never forced anybody to lose their temper. And he can't force anybody to
unsubscribe. That's totally their call.
It's like the Nazi's marching through Skokie, Illinois years ago (google
it). They chose Skokie because a lot of Jewish people liv there. You can't
stop them. The only thing you can control is your own reaction. The Nazis
suck, everybody knows that. So it's not about them. It's about you.
Get it?
From: "Josh de Lioncourt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Gabe Vega and zero tolerance
Lew, Woody, and all,
I tend to be a rather optimistic person, but there comes a point when you
ahve to be realistic. Rather than criticizing those of us who have lost
our patience with Gabriel, try to see it from our perspective.
Positivity has never worked with him. I have seen these sorts of things
tried time and time again in various guises with Gabriel. How many more
years do you expect those of us fed up to continue to be generous with
him? I am sorry that I haven't unlimitted tolerance for someone who has
no tolerance whatsoever for others. Six years of the same nonsense, no
matter how many well- meaning people such as yourselves have come to bat
for him, Gabriel's behavior has never changed. My patience ran out with
him after about three years of it. I applaud your enthusiasm to help
him, and by all means hope you are successful for the sake of this
community, but I think your efforts would be better spent in that, rather
than admonishing those of us who have been through this all before,
multiple times, and have nothing left to give.
On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
woody
well done friend. I totally agree with you here on the entire subject.
I
have to admit its rather upsetting to see so many being so NEGATIVE and
willing to leave the list. having already seen in my inbox someone
asking for info
on leaving the list I am shocked
it doesn't need to be this way. if we support gabe in the right and
proper
manner then things will be better for us all. the rights of equality
are
there for us all. don't drive someone out even for this. its like
nailing a
coffin or shutting someone out of your life.
so please please people enough already with the negative aspects and
lets
start hearing some resolution and positive action. I for one will not
leave
this list even if someone decides to get clever with me. I dont see the
point of
it. so come on and all of you accept what happens without ram raiding
people
with complexes and guilt trips
do please forgive me for this but I have to confess I am getting rather
tired of reading emails which put a downer on my already tiring and
frustrating
day.
lets start this on a new level and continue with our main objectives
please
all those in favour?.................. (solitary woof) I thought so lol
lew
