up and down arrow through the messages and the unread ones will ding
and announce themselves.
On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:01 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Thanks this worked, now is there anyway for it to tell me if the
message is read or unread or this isn't what I want?
On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:59 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
Marshall,
with cursors tracking one another, move to a splitter, interact
with it, move left or up and you will hear it say up when it bangs
while saying up, stop interacting with it and shift-vo-space twice.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
I'lll have to poke around a bit. This used to move the horizontal
splitter but it didn't work for me either.
Marshall
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:43 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I did this but no dice. Strange enough I could go to the mailbox
table and press VO J and it would jump to the messages table, but
it wouldn't go to back to the mailbox table. Also it doesn't work
iwhen I bring up a message still.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
Position the mouse cursor over the Message list. Move
vertically down until you are over the horizontal splitter.
Double click this splitter and then move into the message list
and try CO-J.
HTMS
Marshal
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:23 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Now your talking, how can I tell. I am in my message table but
I don't knowhow to tell if that is the only thing that has focus.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
I also get the sound when I press CO-J. Do you have the
content area visible? I think that CO-J won't work if the
message list is the only thing that is displayed in that pane.
HTMS
Marshall
On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:07 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I guess, it doesn't work for me but using command ` works
just as well. Now I don't have to use VO F2.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:57 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
as far as I know, vo-j works out of the box.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I can do everything but the VO J thing. The way you
described in your message is how I learned on Tiger and I
did not know about the VO J Any thoughts on why this
wouldn't work for me? Is there a setting or a view I need
to have set?
On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:39 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
here are two ways to do this, find the messages with tab,
arrow up and down through the list till you find the
message you seek, tab and listen, shift tab and either
delete or go on.
Press enter on a message and listen, close and or delete
and move on.
Press vo j to read the message, press vo j to go back to
the list and either delete or move on. No interacting
needed unless you want to position yourself on a column
heading such as subject or sender. In this case, interact
with the message table, vo left/right to the column
heading you want to hear, stop interacting with the
messages table, press vo j to read a message after up or
down arrowing to it and vo j to get back to the list.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Are you using Leopard Mail? I hear interact with message
table, then I press VO J and get a bong. I stop
interacting with the table and hear stop interacting with
message table and press VO J and again nothing happens
but the bong. I press enter on the message and it speaks,
then I press VO J and get the bong again. I have to
either delete the message or close the Window in order to
get the response you are getting.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:happens Try
interacting with your message table. find a message you
want to read, using your up / down arrow keys. Once
you're on the message, press VO J. You should then
immediately be taken to the msg body and it should begin
reading. When you've heard enough, simply press VO J
again and you should then be returned to the msg table
where you were...
HTH
Smiles,
C-Quinn :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:29 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
What is VO J supposed to do? I have tried this key
combination in every instance of mail and all I get is
the bong sound each time. I can interact, not interact,
be in a message or not and this key combination doesn't
work anywhere. I think my computer is broke.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:14 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I have to concur with cara here. It takes a bit of
getting used to and I do things a bit differently in
that I tab instead of vo j, but it is fast.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Andrew, I personally interact with the message table,
use VO right / left arrows to navigate to the subject
or sender column, and then simply use standard up /
down arrows to quickly scroll through the message
list. To read a particular note, I use VO j and then
VO j back out of it to get back to where I was in the
message list... Does this make sense?...
I can go very quickly through lots of email this
way. If I want to delete a message, I use the delete
key in the message list and not in the message body
itself. I've found that using the del key in the
message body causes the message list to lose focus,
so that I need to interact with it again, whereas if
I VO j out of the message after I've read it, I'm
still focused in the message list...
HTH
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
Ok. What about the message list - this is more
annoying than the
reading issue, as it takes ages before the message
subject is read out
in the list.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: 01 November 2007 19:58
To: General discussions on all topics relating to
the use of Mac OS X by
theblind
Subject: Re: Upgrade to Leopard - annoying feature
in Mail
you need to interact with the message to read it
unless you want to
either press enter, vo-j or tab to read it.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
I upgraded to Leopard yesterday, I like the new
voice.
I have though an annoying feature in Mail, in that
when you are
arrowing
through the list of messages, it is reading various
status indicators,
and I just want the message subject (and possibly
date) read out. I
managed to get rid of some of the information by
removing some of the
columns from the view, but has anyone got any tips
on getting this
back
as it was before?
The other thing in Mail is that reading via the
cursor is irratic - it
works quite a bit of the time, but for no reason,
sometimes the system
reads out the complete message, and the arrow keys
have no effect.
Did clean reinstall - copied all user settings to
external storage
first.
Thanks.
Andrew.
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University of Utah - CVRTI
95 South 2000 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
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Fax: (801) 581-3128
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: scott9576a
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reducing technologies disabilities
one byte at a time
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