Hi David.

Are there 3 cursors? A keyboard cursor, mouse cursor and the VO cursor? or is the VO cursor and the mouse cursor the same? In which siturations do you need to move the keyboard cursor to the VO cursor, like route pc to Jaws cursor in Windows? I have been playing around with Tiger for one week now, and I have been able to use all programs without need to route any cursors.

You said you can also use the arrow keys to navigate in documents. Is it a new feature in Leopard? I don't remember the VO manual for Tiger says you can use the arrow keys. It's only talking about navigateing with the VO keys... Or am I `wrong? Another anoying thing with this manual: It only says you can navigate in the Finder by useing the VO keys. It says nothing about the arrow keys, and it's the same in the menus. I find out very quickly that I could use the arrow keys most of the time, but before I tried a Mac, I thought it was very hard to learn to use the Mac, because they only talk about the VO keys. If they also said you can use the arrow keys, I think it would be easyer for newbies to understand how it works. For example: You don't need to hold down the VO keys for arrowing up and down in menus. I think it confuses many newbies. What do you all think?
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Søren Jensen
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: cursor questions


Scott,

These combinations are not in conflict at all. It can be argued though that
at least at times, you need for them not to track one another and this is
why we can turn it off temporarily and turn it on again.  It can also be
argued that the voice over cursor should never follow any other cursor but
the cursors should always follow the voice over and mostly conversely, the
other cursors should not follow the vo cursor.

Now that I've thoroughly confused you, here's how it works.  If you are
voing around in a document and the two insertion point boxes are checked,
you can start typing where you stop with vo and if you are using the arrows
to move in a document, you can pick up where you are with vo if you like.

same with the mouse and keyboard focus cursors. sometimes, I have needed to
do a control click right where I am with vo and having the mouse cursor
follow me while I vo has been handy for that.

The manual provides some exercises which help demonstrate this and the mix
and match.

I hope this helps.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lawlor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:20 AM
Subject: cursor questions


Hi.

Thanks for the info on my basic questions email from all you guys.  I
was looking in the voiceover utility under navigation and was
wondering about the following.
Currently it looks like the following options are all checked.

mouse cursor follows voiceover cursor. viceover cursor follows mouse
cursor.  Should both of these be checked as in the way that I'm
thinking about it, both cursors would be following each other and that
sounds sort of confusing.

also, voicover follows keyboard focus is checked as is keyboard focus
follows keyboard focus.

It doesn't seem logical that both items in each of these pairings
should be checked but then I'm new at this.


Thanks for any clarification on this matter.

Scott






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