Voice Over is not useless. In fact it has come a considerable way since the days of 10.4 I constantly use my Mac, for e mail, surfing the web, and most important of all at the moment, writing my assignments. Voice Over is by far the most stable and responsive Screen Reading solution i have ever used. But if you insist on comparing the two, then i think the only true. comparison that can be made is that they are both implemented into the operating system.

Just my thoughts
Best James

On 18 Jan 2008, at 02:00, Richie Gardenhire wrote:

To say that VoiceOver is useless is open to interpretation and skill level. For example, I use VoiceOver for practically all my every- day applications, including conducting my home businesses, and have no problem taking of business. And when cross-platform games are released, I will use the Mac for game playing as well. I have said many times, there are many list members who use VoiceOver for everyting under the sun, and are successful. So to say that VoiceOver is useless--for whom? Please elaborate as to why you think VoiceOver is useless. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:07 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

On 17 Jan, 2008, at 4:53 PM, John covici wrote:
But Voiceover has the same problem as Narrator has, although somewhat
better, it is unusable unless the app uses MAC standard as it were,
and inevitably some apps won't do that for whatever reason. The only
thing that saves the day a bit is that more mac apps do the standard
thing than windows ones.

Apple plays up compatibility, particularly in accessibility, and provides more robust tools to make apps accesible. I think Apple has been far more pro-active about access standards than Microsoft has. Even if apps followed Microsoft access standards, Narrator would still be mostly useless. Comparing Narrator to VoiceOver is like comparing cement to chocolate cake.


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