Cheryl, I wrote a long post and didn't send it because I try to fight
my own battles and stay clear of others. I agree with profanity and I
have used it myself in a couple of post, but when individuals told me
it was harmful, disrespectful or not tolerated I stopped. I don't want
you or anyone else to go for that matter. I have gotten allot of help
from you and others that has proven invaluable to me and my business.
As adults and children we say things, do things and think things that
may be wrong to others and right to ourselves. For that reason I beg
you to stay. I don't know of anything that can change your mind but
the fact that you help more than you cause problems is enough for
anyone to at least consider your request. If you decide to leave
despite it all, please drop me a line off list..
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Just thought I'd let everybody know I'm leaving the list.
It's of no practical value to go no mail, as the archives for some
reason are never complete or anywhere near complete any more. I just
went to macvisionaries and could only access emails into February
2nd for this month. I don't know; maybe more can be accessed by
using the direct piper mail link that we sometimes use for searching
but it isn't worth the extra work to me at this point. The
Macvoiceover list is now big enough that I feel I can be perfectly
content with the support from that list.
I do appreciate and am not overlooking the moderator's post on the
subject of appropriate language. However, since the majority of this
list either approove such use, are indifferent to it, or don't care
to speak up and be ridiculed or chastised, I have to assume that
language commonly appropriate for all isn't really of major
importance on this list and I'd just as soon not be involved. I also
did notice that except for David's very kind post and one I received
privately which was appreciated, not a word was spoken about the
derrogatory posts I received onlist from Will just because I asked
that such language be avoided. I'm certinly not going to go into a
meltdown or be overly offended by a few nasty angry posts from one
person, but I have to assume that abusive reactions to other posters
is more acceptable than any objection to the use of profanity. As
for the comments about my not imposing my dictionary on others, I do
have the right to determine what comes into my home via the internet
or otherwise. So, while many of you are delightful and helpful
people, I prefer to stick with lists where people are in agreement
that certain language isn't appropriate or necessary in emails and/
or where I know such usage will be stopped immediately if it
accidentally occurs.
I am still amazed at the reaction by the sender of the questionable
message and others on this list just because I asked that the
subject line be changed and then asked a bit more firmly because of
the email server filter response I received. Had I made an insulting
remark about the person who sent the email or launched into a
lecture about profanity, I could understand it, but I did neither of
those things. I also recall that a few months ago there was much
uproar on this list because some listers thought others were being
too harsh in their wording of complaints about the areas of concern
with Macvoiceover; interesting that remarks about apple should come
under more strict censorship than the use of language that might be
offensive to some.
At any rate, I didn't want to leave the list immediately as a kind
of knee-jerk reaction. But I see no reason why I should even have to
consider ways to filter incoming email from a Mac-related list, and
the unuseable state of the archives really leaves me with no reason
to linger.
thanks to all those who have been of help and whose posts I have
enjoyed while on this list!!!
Cheryl
"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."
