Personally, my selfish side is pleading for you to stay. While the
points you bring up here are certainly valid, your contributions to
assist us in learning our machines are priceless, in my opinion. You,
and so many others on the list, have helped me to better appreciate my
machines and the things they can do. This is the primary reason I
subscribed to this list; to gain knowledge and to pass what knowledge
I've gained from advice, suggestions, and/or illustrations have been
most helpful. I'm hoping that communications don't break down and
that those who try to disrupt the flow of list traffic be addressed in
a manner, either privately, or some other communicae, so that
information gained from list members can flow freely and without fear
of repraisals because of a misunderstanding. Richie Gardenhire,
Anchorage, Alaska.
On Feb 24, 2008, at 8:49 AM, James Austin wrote:
Cheryl,
It really is a shame that you are leaving.. But I agree with
everything you've just said.
Stay in touch if you wish
Best wishes
James
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Skype - saulky1984
On 24 Feb 2008, at 17:29, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Just thought I'd let everybody know I'm leaving the list.
It's of no practical value to go no mail, as the archives for some
reason are never complete or anywhere near complete any more. I
just went to macvisionaries and could only access emails into
February 2nd for this month. I don't know; maybe more can be
accessed by using the direct piper mail link that we sometimes use
for searching but it isn't worth the extra work to me at this
point. The Macvoiceover list is now big enough that I feel I can be
perfectly content with the support from that list.
I do appreciate and am not overlooking the moderator's post on the
subject of appropriate language. However, since the majority of
this list either approove such use, are indifferent to it, or don't
care to speak up and be ridiculed or chastised, I have to assume
that language commonly appropriate for all isn't really of major
importance on this list and I'd just as soon not be involved. I
also did notice that except for David's very kind post and one I
received privately which was appreciated, not a word was spoken
about the derrogatory posts I received onlist from Will just
because I asked that such language be avoided. I'm certinly not
going to go into a meltdown or be overly offended by a few nasty
angry posts from one person, but I have to assume that abusive
reactions to other posters is more acceptable than any objection to
the use of profanity. As for the comments about my not imposing my
dictionary on others, I do have the right to determine what comes
into my home via the internet or otherwise. So, while many of you
are delightful and helpful people, I prefer to stick with lists
where people are in agreement that certain language isn't
appropriate or necessary in emails and/or where I know such usage
will be stopped immediately if it accidentally occurs.
I am still amazed at the reaction by the sender of the questionable
message and others on this list just because I asked that the
subject line be changed and then asked a bit more firmly because of
the email server filter response I received. Had I made an
insulting remark about the person who sent the email or launched
into a lecture about profanity, I could understand it, but I did
neither of those things. I also recall that a few months ago there
was much uproar on this list because some listers thought others
were being too harsh in their wording of complaints about the areas
of concern with Macvoiceover; interesting that remarks about apple
should come under more strict censorship than the use of language
that might be offensive to some.
At any rate, I didn't want to leave the list immediately as a kind
of knee-jerk reaction. But I see no reason why I should even have
to consider ways to filter incoming email from a Mac-related list,
and the unuseable state of the archives really leaves me with no
reason to linger.
thanks to all those who have been of help and whose posts I have
enjoyed while on this list!!!
Cheryl
"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."
