Hmm, there's a familiar problem, but I wonder if Apple's access department would pay for such things. I'd pay for the talent in this group, but funding is in short supply these days.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:31 PM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating SystemsatCSUN2008 available I would be happy to do these kinds of things but need to get to the conferences to do them. My employer has no problems with giving me the time but will not pay my way. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:16 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > This one had nothing to do with apple and should have been at least > scoped > out before hand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Store" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > the blind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:47 AM > Subject: RE: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems atCSUN2008 > available > > > Some of you should see if you can gain Apple's interest in > presenting at > these types of specialized conferences. Nothing builds interest > like a > smooth presentation of a new system, and few things can kill it as > quickly > as a rough one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Blouch > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:28 AM > To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > the blind > Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at > CSUN2008 > available > > > I actually attended this session and bailed out part way through. It > was > just too painful to hear the Mac guy struggle along. The assumption > was > that each platform operator was very familiar with their technology > and > the Apple guy obviously was not. I know the Jaws guy is an expert and > the Orca guy was one of the developers of that screen reader. When I > left the Apple guy was still trying to figure out how to launch > Safari. > He was trying to do it by searching his hard drive with Spotlight. I > guess that would work but I think it's far easier to pull up the > application list with Apple-shift-A, type S A to get to Safari and > then > Apple-O to open it. These aren't even Voiceover related commands. I > did > ping the Apple guy who was outside the room as I left about how sad > the > VO showing was in there. He said he had talked to the presenter (who > claimed to know several platforms) and the presenter assured him he > was > pretty familiar. He also thought that VO and the Mac was a strong > enough > product that it would still succeed. > > A nice positive viewpoint, but for anyone listening to the presenter > struggle to do the most basic things it really sounded bad. On a > positive note I also went to the Apple VoiceOver intro and heard a lot > of positive feedback from folks. It was a bit errie to hear 50 > voiceover > sessions in a room all reading stuff at the same time since the > headphones had not arrived yet. > > I also got to meet Josh De Lioncourt in person, who was there as an > invited expert to help answer questions. That would make anybody's > day :) > > CB > > Justin Harford wrote: >> Hello >> >> I have listened to the discussion. It was sort of painful to listen >> to on the mac side of things. In the past I have been critical of >> the >> apple OS mainly when leopard came out, but mistakes made here could >> easily have been fixed more effectively than they were. I guess >> all I >> can say here is that it hurts to think that other blind users >> struggle >> this much with their computers. >> >> Please tell me it's not like this with everyone here. >> >> Regards >> Justin Harford >> >> Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and >> looked awhile, pondering his voyage >> >> John Milton >> Paradise Lost >> >> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:39 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:17 PM >>> Subject: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN 2008 >>> available >>> >>> >>> -----Forwarded Message----- >>> From: Mika Pyyhkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:02 PM >>> To: Jamal Mazrui >>> Subject: CSUN 2008 Conference MP3 Presentation, Dueling Operating >>> Systems, >>> BLV-1002 >>> >>> Please find a link below to the blog text and audio for this >>> presentation. >>> The file is 1 hour and 52 minutes long, and about 52MB in size: >>> http://dcnightout.com/?p=137 >>> >>> I can add additional text or links to the blog entry if you like, >>> e.g. >>> to the products used, to the presenters, other related entities, or >>> related resources. >>> >>> The recording was made using an Olympus DS50 recorder, and has been >>> saved >>> as a mono MP3 file. I have reviewed the beginning and select parts >>> of the >>> recording but have not reviewed the entire contents. >>> >>> In the presentation, an Apple Macintosh Voiceover, Orca Linux, and >>> Jaws >>> For Windows user complete identical tasks using their assistive and >>> mainstream technologies. The presentation highlights the >>> strengths and >>> weaknesses of each operating system, related assistive >>> technologies, and >>> individual user experiences. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mika >>> Direct Link To MP3: >>> http://media.libsyn.com/media/dcnightout/DCNO_14MAR2008.mp3 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UACCESS-L mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/uaccess-l >>> >>> >> >> > > This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > The information contained herein is confidential, proprietary, > privileged or > otherwise prohibited by law > from disclosure. 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