I saw a note from pratic patel who presented that his mac had a stuck key but I don't know how he came to be the presenter. I think Jamal didn't look too hard though.
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling OperatingSystems atCSUN2008 available I had heard about this presentation while I was at the show. My questions are Who presented the AboutMac side and how was this person chosen for the task? Did the organizers bother to find someone who uses a Mac on a regular basis? Take Care John Panarese On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:16 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > This one had nothing to do with apple and should have been at least > scoped > out before hand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Store" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > the blind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:47 AM > Subject: RE: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems atCSUN2008 > available > > > Some of you should see if you can gain Apple's interest in > presenting at > these types of specialized conferences. Nothing builds interest > like a > smooth presentation of a new system, and few things can kill it as > quickly > as a rough one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Blouch > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:28 AM > To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > the blind > Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at > CSUN2008 > available > > > I actually attended this session and bailed out part way through. It > was > just too painful to hear the Mac guy struggle along. The assumption > was > that each platform operator was very familiar with their technology > and > the Apple guy obviously was not. I know the Jaws guy is an expert and > the Orca guy was one of the developers of that screen reader. When I > left the Apple guy was still trying to figure out how to launch > Safari. > He was trying to do it by searching his hard drive with Spotlight. I > guess that would work but I think it's far easier to pull up the > application list with Apple-shift-A, type S A to get to Safari and > then > Apple-O to open it. These aren't even Voiceover related commands. I > did > ping the Apple guy who was outside the room as I left about how sad > the > VO showing was in there. He said he had talked to the presenter (who > claimed to know several platforms) and the presenter assured him he > was > pretty familiar. He also thought that VO and the Mac was a strong > enough > product that it would still succeed. > > A nice positive viewpoint, but for anyone listening to the presenter > struggle to do the most basic things it really sounded bad. On a > positive note I also went to the Apple VoiceOver intro and heard a lot > of positive feedback from folks. It was a bit errie to hear 50 > voiceover > sessions in a room all reading stuff at the same time since the > headphones had not arrived yet. > > I also got to meet Josh De Lioncourt in person, who was there as an > invited expert to help answer questions. That would make anybody's > day :) > > CB > > Justin Harford wrote: >> Hello >> >> I have listened to the discussion. It was sort of painful to listen >> to on the mac side of things. In the past I have been critical of >> the >> apple OS mainly when leopard came out, but mistakes made here could >> easily have been fixed more effectively than they were. I guess >> all I >> can say here is that it hurts to think that other blind users >> struggle >> this much with their computers. >> >> Please tell me it's not like this with everyone here. >> >> Regards >> Justin Harford >> >> Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and >> looked awhile, pondering his voyage >> >> John Milton >> Paradise Lost >> >> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:39 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:17 PM >>> Subject: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN 2008 >>> available >>> >>> >>> -----Forwarded Message----- >>> From: Mika Pyyhkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:02 PM >>> To: Jamal Mazrui >>> Subject: CSUN 2008 Conference MP3 Presentation, Dueling Operating >>> Systems, >>> BLV-1002 >>> >>> Please find a link below to the blog text and audio for this >>> presentation. >>> The file is 1 hour and 52 minutes long, and about 52MB in size: >>> http://dcnightout.com/?p=137 >>> >>> I can add additional text or links to the blog entry if you like, >>> e.g. >>> to the products used, to the presenters, other related entities, or >>> related resources. >>> >>> The recording was made using an Olympus DS50 recorder, and has been >>> saved >>> as a mono MP3 file. I have reviewed the beginning and select parts >>> of the >>> recording but have not reviewed the entire contents. >>> >>> In the presentation, an Apple Macintosh Voiceover, Orca Linux, and >>> Jaws >>> For Windows user complete identical tasks using their assistive and >>> mainstream technologies. The presentation highlights the >>> strengths and >>> weaknesses of each operating system, related assistive >>> technologies, and >>> individual user experiences. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mika >>> Direct Link To MP3: >>> http://media.libsyn.com/media/dcnightout/DCNO_14MAR2008.mp3 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UACCESS-L mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/uaccess-l >>> >>> >> >> > > This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. > The information contained herein is confidential, proprietary, > privileged or > otherwise prohibited by law > from disclosure. 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