Or just use the doc.
On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
I actually attended this session and bailed out part way through. It
was just too painful to hear the Mac guy struggle along. The
assumption was that each platform operator was very familiar with
their technology and the Apple guy obviously was not. I know the
Jaws guy is an expert and the Orca guy was one of the developers of
that screen reader. When I left the Apple guy was still trying to
figure out how to launch Safari. He was trying to do it by searching
his hard drive with Spotlight. I guess that would work but I think
it's far easier to pull up the application list with Apple-shift-A,
type S A to get to Safari and then Apple-O to open it. These aren't
even Voiceover related commands. I did ping the Apple guy who was
outside the room as I left about how sad the VO showing was in
there. He said he had talked to the presenter (who claimed to know
several platforms) and the presenter assured him he was pretty
familiar. He also thought that VO and the Mac was a strong enough
product that it would still succeed.
A nice positive viewpoint, but for anyone listening to the presenter
struggle to do the most basic things it really sounded bad. On a
positive note I also went to the Apple VoiceOver intro and heard a
lot of positive feedback from folks. It was a bit errie to hear 50
voiceover sessions in a room all reading stuff at the same time
since the headphones had not arrived yet.
I also got to meet Josh De Lioncourt in person, who was there as an
invited expert to help answer questions. That would make anybody's
day :)
CB
Justin Harford wrote:
Hello
I have listened to the discussion. It was sort of painful to
listen to on the mac side of things. In the past I have been
critical of the apple OS mainly when leopard came out, but mistakes
made here could easily have been fixed more effectively than they
were. I guess all I can say here is that it hurts to think that
other blind users struggle this much with their computers.
Please tell me it's not like this with everyone here.
Regards
Justin Harford
Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell
and looked awhile, pondering his voyage
John Milton
Paradise Lost
On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:39 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:02 PM
To: Jamal Mazrui
Subject: CSUN 2008 Conference MP3 Presentation, Dueling Operating
Systems,
BLV-1002
Please find a link below to the blog text and audio for this
presentation.
The file is 1 hour and 52 minutes long, and about 52MB in size:
http://dcnightout.com/?p=137
I can add additional text or links to the blog entry if you like,
e.g.
to the products used, to the presenters, other related entities, or
related resources.
The recording was made using an Olympus DS50 recorder, and has
been saved
as a mono MP3 file. I have reviewed the beginning and select
parts of the
recording but have not reviewed the entire contents.
In the presentation, an Apple Macintosh Voiceover, Orca Linux, and
Jaws
For Windows user complete identical tasks using their assistive and
mainstream technologies. The presentation highlights the
strengths and
weaknesses of each operating system, related assistive
technologies, and
individual user experiences.
Enjoy,
Mika
Direct Link To MP3:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/dcnightout/DCNO_14MAR2008.mp3
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