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Task 3 carry out a find and replace. Best regards, Earle Harrison President - Handy Tech North America Phone: 651-636-5184 Fax: 866-347-8249 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.handytech.us -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:02 AM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating SystemsatCSUN2008 available I don't have time to do it myself but if someone could go through the audio and tell me what the tasks were in the presentation at CSUN I will produce a movie of my computer doing those things in VoiceOver. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mar 21, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > I thought it was funny how the linux guy was evading the questions > that people were throwing at him. The fact of the matter is that he > was working with a broken OS, which he slightly hinted at. Don't > those linux people have ways to downgrade? > > Regards > Justin Harford > > Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and > looked awhile, pondering his voyage > > John Milton > Paradise Lost > > On Mar 21, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> I have no problem with expert users showing me how its done, or >> novice users showing me how hard it is to get going. Just don't mix >> the two. I think they said that Janina Sajka, Chair of Open A11y >> >> http://accessibility.linux-foundation.org/a11yspecs/kbd/kafs-rc3.html >> >> was supposed to be the Orca user >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_%28assistive_technology%29 >> >> but they scheduled her a11y presentation at the same time as the >> dueling OS stuff and, given the choice, she bowed out. So the Orca >> engineer was a last-minute substitute. While the Jaws guy may have >> been a beta tester, he wasn't a developer so he didn't have special >> insights that an ordinary user wouldn't have. He just knew his tool >> really really well. >> >> The Mac guy seemed to be a jack of all trades user. More of a >> beginner on voiceover. Not a bad thing, but you put him in with the >> other two guys and it sounded like VO was unusable. >> >> CB >> >> Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: >>> This, as much as I've been able to hear, is interesting. But I >>> have a question. Maybe I missed it or misunderstood, but it >>> seemed like the two non-apple presenters were using Firefox. Why >>> didn't the Mac presenter have the option of using Firefox as >>> well? From what I understand there is a version of Firefox for >>> Mac. Isn't it accessable? >>> Also, I'm not sure it was quite fare that the linux presenter was >>> also a developer for the screen reader he was using, seems like >>> he'd have an advantage, and come to think of it wasn't the other >>> guy a beta tester for JAWS? It didn't seem like the Mac presenter >>> really had any sort of tie to Mac or VoiceOver development. >>> >>> I wonder how this would of played out if they had just picked >>> three random people, like a Windows/JAWS or Windoweyes user, a >>> VoiceOver user and a... Forgive me I forget what the other screen >>> access linux thing was, user off the street as it were and had >>> them do these tasks? I think it would of been more "real world" >>> if they just picked avrage every day run of the mill computer >>> users. But this is just my thoughts... >>> >>> What do you all think? >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>> OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:16 AM >>> Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating >>> SystemsatCSUN2008 available >>> >>> >>>> This one had nothing to do with apple and should have been at >>>> least scoped >>>> out before hand. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Store" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>> OS X by >>>> the blind" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:47 AM >>>> Subject: RE: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems >>>> atCSUN2008 >>>> available >>>> >>>> >>>> Some of you should see if you can gain Apple's interest in >>>> presenting at >>>> these types of specialized conferences. Nothing builds interest >>>> like a >>>> smooth presentation of a new system, and few things can kill it >>>> as quickly >>>> as a rough one. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris >>>> Blouch >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:28 AM >>>> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>> OS X by >>>> the blind >>>> Subject: Re: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at >>>> CSUN2008 >>>> available >>>> >>>> >>>> I actually attended this session and bailed out part way through. >>>> It was >>>> just too painful to hear the Mac guy struggle along. The >>>> assumption was >>>> that each platform operator was very familiar with their >>>> technology and >>>> the Apple guy obviously was not. I know the Jaws guy is an expert >>>> and >>>> the Orca guy was one of the developers of that screen reader. >>>> When I >>>> left the Apple guy was still trying to figure out how to launch >>>> Safari. >>>> He was trying to do it by searching his hard drive with >>>> Spotlight. I >>>> guess that would work but I think it's far easier to pull up the >>>> application list with Apple-shift-A, type S A to get to Safari >>>> and then >>>> Apple-O to open it. These aren't even Voiceover related commands. >>>> I did >>>> ping the Apple guy who was outside the room as I left about how >>>> sad the >>>> VO showing was in there. He said he had talked to the presenter >>>> (who >>>> claimed to know several platforms) and the presenter assured him >>>> he was >>>> pretty familiar. He also thought that VO and the Mac was a strong >>>> enough >>>> product that it would still succeed. >>>> >>>> A nice positive viewpoint, but for anyone listening to the >>>> presenter >>>> struggle to do the most basic things it really sounded bad. On a >>>> positive note I also went to the Apple VoiceOver intro and heard >>>> a lot >>>> of positive feedback from folks. It was a bit errie to hear 50 >>>> voiceover >>>> sessions in a room all reading stuff at the same time since the >>>> headphones had not arrived yet. >>>> >>>> I also got to meet Josh De Lioncourt in person, who was there as an >>>> invited expert to help answer questions. That would make >>>> anybody's day :) >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> Justin Harford wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> >>>>> I have listened to the discussion. It was sort of painful to >>>>> listen >>>>> to on the mac side of things. In the past I have been critical >>>>> of the >>>>> apple OS mainly when leopard came out, but mistakes made here >>>>> could >>>>> easily have been fixed more effectively than they were. I guess >>>>> all I >>>>> can say here is that it hurts to think that other blind users >>>>> struggle >>>>> this much with their computers. >>>>> >>>>> Please tell me it's not like this with everyone here. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Justin Harford >>>>> >>>>> Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell >>>>> and >>>>> looked awhile, pondering his voyage >>>>> >>>>> John Milton >>>>> Paradise Lost >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:39 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:17 PM >>>>>> Subject: [UACCESS-L] Audio of Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN >>>>>> 2008 >>>>>> available >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Forwarded Message----- >>>>>> From: Mika Pyyhkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:02 PM >>>>>> To: Jamal Mazrui >>>>>> Subject: CSUN 2008 Conference MP3 Presentation, Dueling Operating >>>>>> Systems, >>>>>> BLV-1002 >>>>>> >>>>>> Please find a link below to the blog text and audio for this >>>>>> presentation. >>>>>> The file is 1 hour and 52 minutes long, and about 52MB in size: >>>>>> http://dcnightout.com/?p=137 >>>>>> >>>>>> I can add additional text or links to the blog entry if you >>>>>> like, e.g. >>>>>> to the products used, to the presenters, other related >>>>>> entities, or >>>>>> related resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> The recording was made using an Olympus DS50 recorder, and has >>>>>> been >>>>>> saved >>>>>> as a mono MP3 file. I have reviewed the beginning and select >>>>>> parts >>>>>> of the >>>>>> recording but have not reviewed the entire contents. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the presentation, an Apple Macintosh Voiceover, Orca Linux, >>>>>> and Jaws >>>>>> For Windows user complete identical tasks using their assistive >>>>>> and >>>>>> mainstream technologies. The presentation highlights the >>>>>> strengths and >>>>>> weaknesses of each operating system, related assistive >>>>>> technologies, and >>>>>> individual user experiences. >>>>>> >>>>>> Enjoy, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mika >>>>>> Direct Link To MP3: >>>>>> http://media.libsyn.com/media/dcnightout/DCNO_14MAR2008.mp3 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> UACCESS-L mailing list >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/uaccess-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of >>>> the >>>> individual to whom it is addressed. >>>> The information contained herein is confidential, proprietary, >>>> privileged or >>>> otherwise prohibited by law >>>> from disclosure. If you have received this email in error, please >>>> destroy >>>> the message immediately and >>>> notify the sender by email. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
