Aa, thank Hermes, that worked.  You're a genius!  I wish I could learn
all these quick shortcuts.  it would save me a lot of headaches.  As
for the numpad commander, I'm using a Macbook.  So would that even be
available?  As for a Latin modifier, I've never heard of one.

On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> Well, we just can't win. The reason VO commands won't work is that
> they adapt themselves to the keyboard layout. However, if I understand
> things correctly, the greek keyboard layout doesn't have any latin
> letters on it. Is there a modifier or something that will temporarily
> revert to the Latin alphabet, as that's what voiceover is expecting?
> To switch back, go to the status menu with ctrl+f8 (built-in os x
> shortcut) and use the same text input menu again.
> Back on 10.4 a lot of users complained that VO did not map itself onto
> new keyboard layouts. Now that it does, we're seeing the other side of
> the coin, I guess.
> My suggestion would be to map the keys you need to the numpad
> commander, as I don't believe that is affected by the keyboard change.
> Pretty much all the VO commands can be mapped this way, and you'd be
> able to use them then. Not the ideal solution, but as Apple has not
> internationalized Voiceover at this point I'm not sure what else to
> suggest. The only non-latin keyboard layouts I've ever worked with
> were Japanese, and they have a very quick way to switch back to the
> Latin alphabet when needed.
>
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
> > It definitely helped, but now, I can't get it back to english! I'm
> > using a windows machine and am seriously considering switching back to
> > windows if I can't solve this problem by creating a macros or
> > something. I need a multilingual machine and this isn't cutting it.
> > I can't use any of the VO commands because they won't work with the
> > Greek keyboard layout. I tried hitting the off button and then
> > turning it on again, hoping that it wouldn't save my settings, but it
> > did. So how do I fix this? Microsoft got this one right with alt
> > shift as a default to change this, no matter where you are. Btw, I
> > actually can use command w and command q, jut not anything else.
> >
> > On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> The status menu is vo+m twice, it's where your battery, clock, and
> >> other things show up. Pressing vo+space on the checkbox for me says
> >> checked, but doesn't actually check the box. You need to use vo+cmd
> >> +f5, then vo+shift+space to click the box.
> >> hth
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
> >>> Ok, I'm not sure what you meant about the mouse and when I tried vo
> >>> shift space, it didn't work. I just looked at the options and hit vo
> >>> space and it said the box was checked. But where do I find this
> >>> status menu? Also, is there a quick hotkey to do this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tiffanitsa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> To add any keyboard, go to system preferences, then international.
> >>>> Select the input menu tab, and check the keyboards you want
> >>>> (there's a
> >>>> lot of them). Note that I had to route the mouse to the "on"
> >>>> checkbox
> >>>> immediately to the left of each keyboard name and do vo+shift+space
> >>>> to
> >>>> actually click on the checkbox.
> >>>> Once you've got more than one keyboard enabled, an icon will appear
> >>>> on
> >>>> your status menu called "text input." This is a pulldown menu from
> >>>> which you can select any of the keyboards you have enabled.
> >>>> hth
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Tiffany D wrote:
> >>>>> Geia sas,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can anyone please tell me how to add the Greek keyboard to the
> >>>>> Macbook? I know how to do this in Windows, but have never
> >>>>> attempted
> >>>>> it in Leopard and don't want to wind up changing the whole
> >>>>> system to
> >>>>> Greek. *smile* Also, how to I switch between keyboard languages?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks,
> >>>>> Tiffanitsa
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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