Hi Jacob and Tiffanitsa, I'm not sure that the numpad is available on new MacBooks with the fn key combination, so this option depends on the age of the MacBook. The newer MacBooks -- from December and January onwards -- don't have the ability to turn on the num lock key with F6 nor do they have the ability to get to numpad with the fn keys.
Jacob wrote: >Hi >The numpad is available by using the fn key in combination with the >right half of the keyboard, the layout is similar to what you'd find >on most PC laptops. I don't know if the greek keyboard has a latin >modifier, it probably doesn't but it was just an idea. > > > Here's a quote from the thread on numpad commander on a notebook: On 24-Feb-08, at 4:10 PM, David Poehlman wrote: what if yo press fn with one of the keys? Hi David, Here goes: jkluio789 It's just not there anymore. Later... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: numpad commander on a notebook: Hi David, You said: if you don't have a full keyboard for your laptop, you can still experience numpad commander with I believe the fn key. Interestingly, it might evenoffer some uses for notebook users that provide creative ways to work. TK: The NumPad functionality appears to have been eliminated from the latest MacBook line. I purchased this one in December and there is no "Num-Lock" at the F6 key and if I press fn-jkl or fn-uio and such, I simply get the letters. Later... <snip> There was an article in the January Ars Technica titled: "MacBook numeric keypad, Num Lock going the way of the dodo" January 09, 2008 they state: <begin selected quote> One "feature" of the new Apple Wireless Keyboard that people noticed quickly is the lack of the familiar numeric keypad and associated Num Lock key. A lot of users liked the change, but of course some weren't so happy, mourning the loss of the spare set of numbers. But like it or not, the numeric keypad isn't coming back. In fact, the Num Lock key and its ilk may be disappearing from even more Apple products, according to a recent piece by the New York Times' David Pogue. One of Pogue's readers e-mailed him to say that their recently-ordered MacBook had arrived sans Num Lock-enabled numeric keypad. After checking with Apple's PR department, Pogue confirmed that the MacBook has indeed lost its numeric keypad and Num Lock key for good. The reason? Those shiny new Apple Wireless Keyboards, of course. More specifically, Apple apparently wanted to standardize the appearance of the two products, necessitating the keypad's removal. <end selected quote> Sorry about this, Esther >On Mar 31, 2008, at 3:58 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >> Aa, thank Hermes, that worked. You're a genius! I wish I could learn >> all these quick shortcuts. it would save me a lot of headaches. As >> for the numpad commander, I'm using a Macbook. So would that even be >> available? As for a Latin modifier, I've never heard of one. >> >> On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi >>> Well, we just can't win. The reason VO commands won't work is that >>> they adapt themselves to the keyboard layout. However, if I >>> understand >>> things correctly, the greek keyboard layout doesn't have any latin >>> letters on it. Is there a modifier or something that will temporarily >>> revert to the Latin alphabet, as that's what voiceover is expecting? >>> To switch back, go to the status menu with ctrl+f8 (built-in os x >>> shortcut) and use the same text input menu again. >>> Back on 10.4 a lot of users complained that VO did not map itself >>> onto >>> new keyboard layouts. Now that it does, we're seeing the other side >>> of >>> the coin, I guess. >>> My suggestion would be to map the keys you need to the numpad >>> commander, as I don't believe that is affected by the keyboard >>> change. >>> Pretty much all the VO commands can be mapped this way, and you'd be >>> able to use them then. Not the ideal solution, but as Apple has not >>> internationalized Voiceover at this point I'm not sure what else to >>> suggest. The only non-latin keyboard layouts I've ever worked with >>> were Japanese, and they have a very quick way to switch back to the >>> Latin alphabet when needed. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>> It definitely helped, but now, I can't get it back to english! I'm >>>> using a windows machine and am seriously considering switching >>>> back to >>>> windows if I can't solve this problem by creating a macros or >>>> something. I need a multilingual machine and this isn't cutting it. >>>> I can't use any of the VO commands because they won't work with the >>>> Greek keyboard layout. I tried hitting the off button and then >>>> turning it on again, hoping that it wouldn't save my settings, but >>>> it >>>> did. So how do I fix this? Microsoft got this one right with alt >>>> shift as a default to change this, no matter where you are. Btw, I >>>> actually can use command w and command q, jut not anything else. >>>> >>>> On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> The status menu is vo+m twice, it's where your battery, clock, and >>>>> other things show up. Pressing vo+space on the checkbox for me says >>>>> checked, but doesn't actually check the box. You need to use vo+cmd >>>>> +f5, then vo+shift+space to click the box. >>>>> hth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>>> Ok, I'm not sure what you meant about the mouse and when I tried >>>>>> vo >>>>>> shift space, it didn't work. I just looked at the options and >>>>>> hit vo >>>>>> space and it said the box was checked. But where do I find this >>>>>> status menu? Also, is there a quick hotkey to do this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Tiffanitsa >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/30/08, Jacob Schmude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> To add any keyboard, go to system preferences, then >>>>>>> international. >>>>>>> Select the input menu tab, and check the keyboards you want >>>>>>> (there's a >>>>>>> lot of them). Note that I had to route the mouse to the "on" >>>>>>> checkbox >>>>>>> immediately to the left of each keyboard name and do vo+shift >>>>>>> +space >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> actually click on the checkbox. >>>>>>> Once you've got more than one keyboard enabled, an icon will >>>>>>> appear >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> your status menu called "text input." This is a pulldown menu >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> which you can select any of the keyboards you have enabled. >>>>>>> hth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>>>>> Geia sas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone please tell me how to add the Greek keyboard to the >>>>>>>> Macbook? I know how to do this in Windows, but have never >>>>>>>> attempted >>>>>>>> it in Leopard and don't want to wind up changing the whole >>>>>>>> system to >>>>>>>> Greek. *smile* Also, how to I switch between keyboard languages? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>> Tiffanitsa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > >
