Hi Simon,

Be very careful with changing keyboards to non-Latin languages since I
know that you're interested in Greek and Russian.  If you manage to change
your language input preference order -- not just add a foreign language
keyboard input -- and wind up with a default non-Latin keyboard entry
language you'll have problems with VoiceOver.

You want to make sure that on the Language tab of the International
menu of system preferences that the first language listed in the 
table is your default language -- probably English, for you, but U.S.
English for me -- in any case it should be a language with latin
characters for its keyboard set if you want to use VoiceOver!

You may need to use VoiceOver's drag and drop to ensure language 
order.  Here's a link to Søren's post on how to do this for the language
tab:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg27607.html

The language tab is tab 1 of 3 on the International menu.  You shouldn't
have to change it, but it may update when you add input language
keyboards on the input menu (tab 3 of 3).

I have a test user account that I created to troubleshoot problems that are
user account specific or that are associated with general system settings.
I can also always have an alternative login account where everything
works.

In this case, the preference list file for the default language options turns
out to be a "hidden" file, so the normal recommendation of trashing the
file plist file won't work -- because it isn't displayable in Finder.  I can get
to it from Spotlight, but if you can't type Latin characters to match the file
name, you can't use Spotlight to find this:

Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist

in your account.  (The period before the file name means that it is a
"hidden" file that isn't set to show up unless you use a software tool
like the freeware OnyX to let these be shown, or unless you work in
terminal.)

>Jacob, what status menu do you mean and where does one find it? 
>Probably a daft question but help would be appreciated.
>
>With best wishes
>
>Simon

As you've probably read, the status menu is the portion of the menu
bar for the clock, battery, volume and Airport Connection. It's reached
with VO-keys+m issued twice or with control-F8 (or on laptops this 
might be control-FN-F8 depending on your keyboard setting).

Cheers,

Esther

>On 30 Mar 2008, at 18:42, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> To add any keyboard, go to system preferences, then international.  
>> Select the input menu tab, and check the keyboards you want (there's  
>> a lot of them). Note that I had to route the mouse to the "on"  
>> checkbox immediately to the left of each keyboard name and do vo 
>> +shift+space to actually click on the checkbox.
>> Once you've got more than one keyboard enabled, an icon will appear  
>> on your status menu called "text input." This is a pulldown menu  
>> from which you can select any of the keyboards you have enabled.
>> hth
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>> Geia sas,
>>>
>>> Can anyone please tell me how to add the Greek keyboard to the
>>> Macbook?  I know how to do this in Windows, but have never attempted
>>> it in Leopard and don't want to wind up changing the whole system to
>>> Greek. *smile*  Also, how to I switch between keyboard languages?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Tiffanitsa
>>>
>>
>>
>
>On 30 Mar 2008, at 18:42, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>> Hi
>> To add any keyboard, go to system preferences, then international.  
>> Select the input menu tab, and check the keyboards you want (there's  
>> a lot of them). Note that I had to route the mouse to the "on"  
>> checkbox immediately to the left of each keyboard name and do vo 
>> +shift+space to actually click on the checkbox.
>> Once you've got more than one keyboard enabled, an icon will appear  
>> on your status menu called "text input." This is a pulldown menu  
>> from which you can select any of the keyboards you have enabled.
>> hth
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>> Geia sas,
>>>
>>> Can anyone please tell me how to add the Greek keyboard to the
>>> Macbook?  I know how to do this in Windows, but have never attempted
>>> it in Leopard and don't want to wind up changing the whole system to
>>> Greek. *smile*  Also, how to I switch between keyboard languages?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Tiffanitsa
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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