For better or worse Apple has historically dumped its old solutions and started over when they felt it was worth it while Microsoft has tended to be more of a packrat and keep everything. Some pain now to avoid a bunch of pain later. Each time there was an Apple transition there were Apple users left out in the cold but it also meant that a new better system came about. To my recollection Apple has done this three times. They dropped their DOS 3.3 on the Apple II to go to ProDOS which had minimal backwards compatibility. Later they dropped their Apple II line to go to the Mac and it's new 68K processor which of course did not run any of the Apple II stuff. After that they dropped the MacOS 9 series and made OSX. There's a bit of interesting philosophy about when do you keep trying to improve or add-on to what you've got and when do you jump ship. In the latest iteration I think Apple is now reaping the rewards of building on a clean solid new foundation. Windows is collapsing under the weight of decades of software layers.

There is an interesting read about standards and how they stop working as things spiral out of control. It's focused on the IE8 web standards debate but they go into the history of why standards fail over time. The article "Martian Headsets" by Joel Spolsky.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html

CB

Scott Howell wrote:
Huh, well don't hold your breath. For Microsoft to do that, they'd have to damn near toss the entire windows code base out the window -- pardon the pun. This is a perfect opportunity to say that this is where Microsoft and Apple truly differ. Snow Leopard when released will likely not contain a large number of new features, but what it will include if you have read the info available, is a significantly optimized os designed to take advantage of many new and future technologies. Microsoft will likely get there one day, but it'll just be more code tossed on the old code, I don't see them actually sitting down and basically rewriting windows from the ground up or even from the fifth floor up.

On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

This topic came up at our Southern Maryland Mac Users Group Meeting. As of now, no virus has yet been effective against a Macintosh computer. There were two incidents which are called virus but one of them was a user who got upset with his Mac because it wouldn't automatically play a CD when he put it into his drive he wrote a short piece of code and somehow it got onto the internet. It was so popular though with other Mac users at that time it spread like a virus. That code was later purchased by Apple and if I'm not much mistaken it's been added to Tiger and Leopard as part of how Apple handles playing of CD's and DVD's. If you choose the right option that code will play CD's and DVD's for you when you put them in your drive automatically. The other incident loosely described as a virus was a company that had written a virus and then announced it but never released it onto the internet in order to sell their antivirus package. The Federal Government connected with that Company and made the company cough up $2.5 million for their misbehaviour. Not for one moment claiming Mac's are virus-proof and will remain virus-proof into the future, but this is to the best of my knowledge the only two times virus and Macintosh could be barely ligitimately associated to date. Apple as a corporation very likely will be what provides virus defense and prevention software to its users in future should such software be needed you'll likely have it downloaded by software update. Packages possibly vulnerable to viruses are being upgraded and released as flaws get found and corrected. Generally, packages either get released with new capabilities or bug fixes. The virus writers on the Windows side of the aisle have actually done the screen reader industry a huge favor though. The resources Microsoft has to use to apply patches on top of patches can't be used at the same time to add any new features to their offerings, so the screen reader industry has more time to perfect their new innovations against an already existing code base. The one true danger to the screen reader industry will be if Microsoft ever goes and closes all of those unterminated loops in whatever version of windows is in use at the time. A tremendous performance improvement will then happen along with a huge memory requirement decrease windows xp can probably run in 640K of memory if that ever gets done, then all those programmers who worked on patches for all of those years will be back innovating new features again. Such a move were it to ever happen would make life for virus writers lots harder and also bankrupt Intel along with other chip manufacturers because computers could get lots lighter in terms of memory than they've grown over the years.



On Fri, 30 May 2008, Dave Wright wrote:

Hi there all,
I'm not sure whether or not this topic has been discussed on this list, but I'm wondering if I should invest in a virus removal program for the mac? I did see that Norton Antivirus does make a version for mac OSX, however I didn't know if anyone out there had a preference? Any info would be much appreciated.


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