Something like that could theoreticallywork. I think I will hold out
and wait for apple to develope a solution if they ever do.
Olivia
On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Mike's Western Account wrote:
i could see that working;)
On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
I was looking at the ITell yesterday as it was mentioned on this
list. Main downside is you kinda loose a lot of the portability if
you have to attach an "accessibility dongle". Knowing Apple their
eventual solution will be more elegant. I was thinking along the
lines of some kind of finger browsing where you can touch any part
of the surface and it reads to you what it is. Then with a gesture
you tell it you want to do some interaction with it. So you drag
over the apps until you find the one you want and then do a swirl
or something to launch it. Eventually you would know generally
where to touch so you wouldn't have to hunt as much before
gesturing. In other words, of a11y we would default to a kind of
browse mode and once we've picked the thing we want to interact
with we give commands to do something. This could even work for the
on-screen keyboard where maybe just releasing my finger types the
key I have browsed to. Anyway, I don't know if this would really
work but it's just an idea.
CB
David Poehlman wrote:
Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could
engineer an ui and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an
app that talks. there is a hardware device for the IPod called
ITel I think that achieves at least part of this for the IPod.
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Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening
So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible?
Obviously
it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no
tactile
UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have
simple
instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right for
no.
That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex
interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple
but this
seems like a tough nut to crack.
CB
Krister Ekstrom wrote:
22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan:
I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling
about another issue and was told that apple would "look into it"
This
was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of now.
But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone business
going
on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like this
that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over functionality
and
accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a well
functioning screen reader as we have.
With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be
usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we get
angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and
complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen.
/Krister
