Great ideas, for the release of your finger tip is already in play with mobile speek pocket. Additionally it also uses a similar brows feature. These are not primary options but are choices you have with this code factory product. Given this performance the I phone should not be all that far behind. As for a tote along key board that could be used for more internet browsing or more in-depth actions. These ideas are great and should be herd by Apple.
Pete -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike's Western Account Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:36 PM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening i could see that working;) On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I was looking at the ITell yesterday as it was mentioned on this list. > Main downside is you kinda loose a lot of the portability if you have > to attach an "accessibility dongle". Knowing Apple their eventual > solution will be more elegant. I was thinking along the lines of some > kind of finger browsing where you can touch any part of the surface > and it reads to you what it is. Then with a gesture you tell it you > want to do some interaction with it. So you drag over the apps until > you find the one you want and then do a swirl or something to launch > it. Eventually you would know generally where to touch so you wouldn't > have to hunt as much before gesturing. In other words, of a11y we > would default to a kind of browse mode and once we've picked the thing > we want to interact with we give commands to do something. This could > even work for the on-screen keyboard where maybe just releasing my > finger types the key I have browsed to. Anyway, I don't know if this > would really work but it's just an idea. > > CB > > David Poehlman wrote: >> Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could engineer >> an ui and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that >> talks. there is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think >> that achieves at least part of this for the IPod. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM >> Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening >> >> >> So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? >> Obviously >> it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no >> tactile UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some >> have simple instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top >> right for no. >> That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex >> interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple but >> this seems like a tough nut to crack. >> >> CB >> >> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> 22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan: >>> >>> >>>> I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling >>>> about another issue and was told that apple would "look into it" >>>> This >>>> was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of now. >>>> >>> But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone business >>> going on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like >>> this that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over >>> functionality and accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we >>> have such a well functioning screen reader as we have. >>> >>> With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be >>> usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we get >>> angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and >>> complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen. >>> >>> /Krister >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
