O, wait.
Randy. Are you saying taht I have to actually have Quicktime running first
before I click the listen link in Safari? I was under the impression that
once I vo spaced on that listen link, above the station name, in radio time,
then Quick time would automatically launchu and come up.
Plus, I don't think Safari or Quick time, nor even ITunes for that mind are
running, as if I command+tab, I don't see them at all, and vo+F1 is not
showing it in my running applications list.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Did you quit Flip4Mac? Command q is the shortcut you will want to use.
Tray that and restart Safari and Quicktime. No you do not have to play.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
OK, I tried what you said, but it's still not working. I now am! able
to hear Radio Time. So, we're half way there, the thing now is, yeah, I
was able to check the box to use quick time, but, unfortunately, the
first box that says use the plugin within the browser, it's checked, but
it's dimmed, so basicly, even checking to bring up ITunes isn't working.
I gather that somehow we gotta uncheck that first box that is dimmed,
but how can I do that? Why is it dimmed to start with? I did see
something in there, it's the fifth tab in flip for Mac, called Upgrade.
I wonder if I gotta pay for a key to have access to that feature to have
it not use it's own internal plugin. I just for the life of me cannot
figure out why in the living heck that box is dimmed. Frankly this is
kind of bazaar.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X
by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Command q to quit. Command w only closes the window.
Quicktime has its controls labeled and there are no shortcuts that I
am aware of.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
Randy,
Well, the weirdest thing, is the box to use the plugin is dimmed,
however, it is checked. So, I don't think that'll pose too much of a
problem. The only thing really now is I did find the other check box
to use quick time, and I did! check that box, as it wasn't dimmed
out, but it was unchecked before. Then I just did command w, as I
didn't see an ok button or the like. So, hopefully now, we should be
all set to go.
Let me grab some breakfast, and finish this batch a mail, then I'll
E-mail yall and let yall know the outcome. I really honestly haven't
played much with just plain oal quicktime though. I assume since
ITunes backbones off of it, that the commands'll be the same. Like
vol up an down'll still be my command up and down arrows, and mute'll
still be my command shift down arrow? I guess stop and pause would
be space bar? Or actually, does this work more like dvd player, where
I need to do command period to stop. Or actually, will either one
stop it.
Thank you all so much for all of your guided help. It's very much
appreciated. I'm very confident that if all yall keep working with
me on this as yall are, we'll get to the bottom a this.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Hi Chris,
After you install Flip4Mac
1. quit Safari and Quicktime if you have them running.
2. Go to System Preferences,
3. Choose Flip4Mac either from the list or the System Preferences
window,
4. Select the browser tab in the Flip4Mac wmv preference window,
5. Select Use Flip4Mac WMV Browser plug-in checked check box,
6. VO down arrow until you hear, Launch QuickTime Player unchecked
check box,
7. VO spacebar and you should hear, Launch QuickTime Player checked
check box,
8. Quit the Flip4Mac preferences and you are done.
Now whenever you want to listen to a windows media stream Quicktime
will launch, at least most of the time. I find that with some radio
station streams such as the one you mentioned earlier the embedded
player was used. Perhaps those streams use flash. I am not certain
of this but it is my guess.
Hth,
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:47 PM, WWJD wrote:
o, ok, Randy, so how do we go about configuring this thing?
Now that I installed the .mpkg file, will it be residing in my
Application's folder, and if so, once it's up, just like usual, do
I just need to dooa command comma to bring up the preferences?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Chris,
That's why I have configured Flip4Mac to bring up Quicktime rather
than use the embedded player. This way I have the Quicktime
controls which are accessible with VoiceOver. The xm radio
embedded player is flash based and VoiceOver doesn't work well or
at all with flash.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:42 PM, WWJD wrote:
Well, I can get the xm radio site to work, but I don't know where
the little icons like I said to turn up and down the volume in
the embedded player are. I neither can find stop, play, or mute.
It's not a matter with the xm site, me not getting it to play,
and work, it's more I can't find out where those controls are in
the player.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
You need Flip4Mac. I am able to get both of these sites to work
with no problem using VO.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:39 AM, WWJD wrote:
OK guys, two web sites here that I am slightly having a little
issue with on an accessibility side. One of which is pretty
well not working, period, the other a which is all? frickin?
most! there. It's like, Aaa! So! close, but, so! far.
The first a these, is
http://listen.xmradio.com
OK OK OK, yeah? I know there is a dashboard widget that will do
xm Radio. I googled and can't seem to find the thing. So, if
anyone can help me find it, and give me a download link to it,
or even better yet, just attach it and privately send it to me,
that would really be awesome.
Basicly though: the only issue really with the online web
based player that I really am seeing, if anything, is, in the
player frame, if I interact with it, I do see!the quick tune
area, and the go button, however, under Windows, I am able in
Internet Explorer, to also see that in that frame, there is a
volume up, volume down, stop, play, and mute. I don't see
these with voiceover at all in the player frame. They're not
even showing as non clickable items. They're just simply put:
not there. They're totally being skipped over. I tried vo up,
down, left, and right. O yeah, I made sure first, I was
interacting with the frame, don't worry about that. I'm
perfectly aware a having to interact with each frame. Really
though, from what I can see, that seems to honestly be the only
real issue that I have. Aside that, the site seems to work
quite flawlessly. The little buttons in the preset frame, like
what's on, my presets, etc? You do! have to actually do vo
+command+F5, and route your mouse pointer, then vo+Shift +Space
on 'em, and actually clickem, and I'll tell yall now, they
won't show up as links. They're actually not links. In
windows, at least, they're called on mouse overs. Dono how
the Mac really handles those. Anyway though, if you actually
physically clickem, they seem to be working.
Now, the second site, I'm actually seeing a little more of an
issue.
http://www.RadioTime.com
Basicly, if you sign up for an account, which btw, is free,
and there is no captcha the last I looked.
Then, once logged in, try doing this just to regenerate my
problem:
Once logged in, do a vo+F. Yes, Vo F actually works fine in
this case.
Do a search for the word "Location"
Now, you probably're gonna land onna heading. So, vo right
once, and you'll land on the link that says by location. OK,
vo space on that link.
Now, on this next page, do a vo+F, then put in the word "north"
That'll land you on a link that says North America. Vo space
on it.
Now, on the next page, do a vo+F, and search for "United"
That will land you on a link called United States of America.
Vo space on that link.
Now, do vo+F, and put in "Carolina"
That'll land you on North Carolina. Vo space on it.
Now do vo+F, and put in "Charlotte"
This should land you, most likely on a link that says something
to the effect of Charlotte, Gastonia, Rockhill. Hit Vo+Space
on it.
OK, now, finally, last step!
Bring up your item chooser list, with vo+I. then type in WLYT.
Now vo down arrow until you find the link for WLYT 102.9.
Once there, Vo space on it to move to that link. Now, don't
vo space on it. That's not what you wanna do. I just had you
move to it, so you'll be in the area I need you. OK, now, Vo
left arrow, until you get to a link that says listen. It'll
be the first link you'll hit that says this, right before that
WLYT 102.9 link. OK, Vo space on that listen link.
Now, This is the problem. It comes up in a new browser window,
just fine, however, there is absolutely no audio. If you look
at the top left item of this new window that popped up, you'll
see something that says Mac Warning image. But then, voing
around on this sfcreen doesn't really reveal anything that says
I need to downlaod a plug in, or that it's not compatible, or
the like. So, I'm really kind a stumped. It works absolutely
beyond flawlessly in Windows, but on the Mac, it's beeing a
pain. I didn't know if maybe yall may could figure outta way in
Safari to get it to work. I don't have an intel based mac, so
Virtual Box, Fusion, and Boot Camp, are totally outta the
question.
Chris.
