Hi,
For me it is dimmed too and checked, and it still works.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 21-Sep-08, at 8:14 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
Yeah, it's not doing that at all. Again, I made sure that Safari
wasn't running and neither was quick time but that box is definitely
dimmed.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
No, not at all. Safari should start Quicktime and the stream
should start playing soon thereafter.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
O, wait.
Randy. Are you saying taht I have to actually have Quicktime
running first before I click the listen link in Safari? I was
under the impression that once I vo spaced on that listen link,
above the station name, in radio time, then Quick time would
automatically launchu and come up.
Plus, I don't think Safari or Quick time, nor even ITunes for
that mind are running, as if I command+tab, I don't see them at
all, and vo+F1 is not showing it in my running applications list.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Did you quit Flip4Mac? Command q is the shortcut you will want
to use. Tray that and restart Safari and Quicktime. No you do
not have to play.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
OK, I tried what you said, but it's still not working. I now
am! able to hear Radio Time. So, we're half way there, the
thing now is, yeah, I was able to check the box to use quick
time, but, unfortunately, the first box that says use the plugin
within the browser, it's checked, but it's dimmed, so basicly,
even checking to bring up ITunes isn't working. I gather that
somehow we gotta uncheck that first box that is dimmed, but
how can I do that? Why is it dimmed to start with? I did see
something in there, it's the fifth tab in flip for Mac, called
Upgrade. I wonder if I gotta pay for a key to have access to
that feature to have it not use it's own internal plugin. I
just for the life of me cannot figure out why in the living
heck that box is dimmed. Frankly this is kind of bazaar.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall"
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To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of
Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Command q to quit. Command w only closes the window.
Quicktime has its controls labeled and there are no shortcuts
that I am aware of.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
Randy,
Well, the weirdest thing, is the box to use the plugin is
dimmed, however, it is checked. So, I don't think that'll
pose too much of a problem. The only thing really now is I
did find the other check box to use quick time, and I did!
check that box, as it wasn't dimmed out, but it was
unchecked before. Then I just did command w, as I didn't
see an ok button or the like. So, hopefully now, we should
be all set to go.
Let me grab some breakfast, and finish this batch a mail,
then I'll E-mail yall and let yall know the outcome. I
really honestly haven't played much with just plain oal
quicktime though. I assume since ITunes backbones off of
it, that the commands'll be the same. Like vol up an down'll
still be my command up and down arrows, and mute'll still be
my command shift down arrow? I guess stop and pause would
be space bar? Or actually, does this work more like dvd
player, where I need to do command period to stop. Or
actually, will either one stop it.
Thank you all so much for all of your guided help. It's very
much appreciated. I'm very confident that if all yall keep
working with me on this as yall are, we'll get to the bottom
a this.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of
Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Hi Chris,
After you install Flip4Mac
1. quit Safari and Quicktime if you have them running.
2. Go to System Preferences,
3. Choose Flip4Mac either from the list or the System
Preferences window,
4. Select the browser tab in the Flip4Mac wmv preference
window,
5. Select Use Flip4Mac WMV Browser plug-in checked check box,
6. VO down arrow until you hear, Launch QuickTime Player
unchecked check box,
7. VO spacebar and you should hear, Launch QuickTime Player
checked check box,
8. Quit the Flip4Mac preferences and you are done.
Now whenever you want to listen to a windows media stream
Quicktime will launch, at least most of the time. I find
that with some radio station streams such as the one you
mentioned earlier the embedded player was used. Perhaps
those streams use flash. I am not certain of this but it is
my guess.
Hth,
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:47 PM, WWJD wrote:
o, ok, Randy, so how do we go about configuring this thing?
Now that I installed the .mpkg file, will it be residing in
my Application's folder, and if so, once it's up, just like
usual, do I just need to dooa command comma to bring up the
preferences?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use
of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Chris,
That's why I have configured Flip4Mac to bring up Quicktime
rather than use the embedded player. This way I have the
Quicktime controls which are accessible with VoiceOver.
The xm radio embedded player is flash based and
VoiceOver doesn't work well or at all with flash.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:42 PM, WWJD wrote:
Well, I can get the xm radio site to work, but I don't
know where the little icons like I said to turn up and
down the volume in the embedded player are. I neither can
find stop, play, or mute.
It's not a matter with the xm site, me not getting it to
play, and work, it's more I can't find out where those
controls are in the player.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the
use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
You need Flip4Mac. I am able to get both of these sites
to work with no problem using VO.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:39 AM, WWJD wrote:
OK guys, two web sites here that I am slightly having a
little issue with on an accessibility side. One of
which is pretty well not working, period, the other a
which is all? frickin? most! there. It's like, Aaa! So!
close, but, so! far.
The first a these, is
http://listen.xmradio.com
OK OK OK, yeah? I know there is a dashboard widget
that will do xm Radio. I googled and can't seem to
find the thing. So, if anyone can help me find it, and
give me a download link to it, or even better yet,
just attach it and privately send it to me, that would
really be awesome.
Basicly though: the only issue really with the online
web based player that I really am seeing, if anything,
is, in the player frame, if I interact with it, I do
see!the quick tune area, and the go button, however,
under Windows, I am able in Internet Explorer, to also
see that in that frame, there is a volume up, volume
down, stop, play, and mute. I don't see these with
voiceover at all in the player frame. They're not
even showing as non clickable items. They're just
simply put: not there. They're totally being skipped
over. I tried vo up, down, left, and right. O yeah,
I made sure first, I was interacting with the frame,
don't worry about that. I'm perfectly aware a having
to interact with each frame. Really though, from what
I can see, that seems to honestly be the only real
issue that I have. Aside that, the site seems to work
quite flawlessly. The little buttons in the preset
frame, like what's on, my presets, etc? You do! have
to actually do vo +command+F5, and route your mouse
pointer, then vo+Shift +Space on 'em, and actually
clickem, and I'll tell yall now, they won't show up as
links. They're actually not links. In windows, at
least, they're called on mouse overs. Dono how the
Mac really handles those. Anyway though, if you
actually physically clickem, they seem to be working.
Now, the second site, I'm actually seeing a little more
of an issue.
http://www.RadioTime.com
Basicly, if you sign up for an account, which btw, is
free, and there is no captcha the last I looked.
Then, once logged in, try doing this just to regenerate
my problem:
Once logged in, do a vo+F. Yes, Vo F actually works
fine in this case.
Do a search for the word "Location"
Now, you probably're gonna land onna heading. So, vo
right once, and you'll land on the link that says by
location. OK, vo space on that link.
Now, on this next page, do a vo+F, then put in the word
"north"
That'll land you on a link that says North America.
Vo space on it.
Now, on the next page, do a vo+F, and search for "United"
That will land you on a link called United States of
America. Vo space on that link.
Now, do vo+F, and put in "Carolina"
That'll land you on North Carolina. Vo space on it.
Now do vo+F, and put in "Charlotte"
This should land you, most likely on a link that says
something to the effect of Charlotte, Gastonia,
Rockhill. Hit Vo+Space on it.
OK, now, finally, last step!
Bring up your item chooser list, with vo+I. then type
in WLYT.
Now vo down arrow until you find the link for WLYT 102.9.
Once there, Vo space on it to move to that link. Now,
don't vo space on it. That's not what you wanna do. I
just had you move to it, so you'll be in the area I
need you. OK, now, Vo left arrow, until you get to a
link that says listen. It'll be the first link you'll
hit that says this, right before that WLYT 102.9
link. OK, Vo space on that listen link.
Now, This is the problem. It comes up in a new browser
window, just fine, however, there is absolutely no
audio. If you look at the top left item of this new
window that popped up, you'll see something that says
Mac Warning image. But then, voing around on this
sfcreen doesn't really reveal anything that says I
need to downlaod a plug in, or that it's not
compatible, or the like. So, I'm really kind a
stumped. It works absolutely beyond flawlessly in
Windows, but on the Mac, it's beeing a pain. I didn't
know if maybe yall may could figure outta way in Safari
to get it to work. I don't have an intel based mac,
so Virtual Box, Fusion, and Boot Camp, are totally
outta the question.
Chris.
Alex,
ICE Customer Care,
AWEBSIGHT Administrator,
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