OK, I tried what you said, but it's still not working. I now am! able to
hear Radio Time. So, we're half way there, the thing now is, yeah, I was
able to check the box to use quick time, but, unfortunately, the first box
that says use the plugin within the browser, it's checked, but it's dimmed,
so basicly, even checking to bring up ITunes isn't working. I gather that
somehow we gotta uncheck that first box that is dimmed, but how can I do
that? Why is it dimmed to start with? I did see something in there, it's
the fifth tab in flip for Mac, called Upgrade. I wonder if I gotta pay for
a key to have access to that feature to have it not use it's own internal
plugin. I just for the life of me cannot figure out why in the living heck
that box is dimmed. Frankly this is kind of bazaar.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Command q to quit. Command w only closes the window.
Quicktime has its controls labeled and there are no shortcuts that I am
aware of.
Randy
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
Randy,
Well, the weirdest thing, is the box to use the plugin is dimmed,
however, it is checked. So, I don't think that'll pose too much of a
problem. The only thing really now is I did find the other check box to
use quick time, and I did! check that box, as it wasn't dimmed out, but
it was unchecked before. Then I just did command w, as I didn't see an
ok button or the like. So, hopefully now, we should be all set to go.
Let me grab some breakfast, and finish this batch a mail, then I'll
E-mail yall and let yall know the outcome. I really honestly haven't
played much with just plain oal quicktime though. I assume since ITunes
backbones off of it, that the commands'll be the same. Like vol up an
down'll still be my command up and down arrows, and mute'll still be my
command shift down arrow? I guess stop and pause would be space bar?
Or actually, does this work more like dvd player, where I need to do
command period to stop. Or actually, will either one stop it.
Thank you all so much for all of your guided help. It's very much
appreciated. I'm very confident that if all yall keep working with me
on this as yall are, we'll get to the bottom a this.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X
by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Hi Chris,
After you install Flip4Mac
1. quit Safari and Quicktime if you have them running.
2. Go to System Preferences,
3. Choose Flip4Mac either from the list or the System Preferences
window,
4. Select the browser tab in the Flip4Mac wmv preference window,
5. Select Use Flip4Mac WMV Browser plug-in checked check box,
6. VO down arrow until you hear, Launch QuickTime Player unchecked
check box,
7. VO spacebar and you should hear, Launch QuickTime Player checked
check box,
8. Quit the Flip4Mac preferences and you are done.
Now whenever you want to listen to a windows media stream Quicktime
will launch, at least most of the time. I find that with some radio
station streams such as the one you mentioned earlier the embedded
player was used. Perhaps those streams use flash. I am not certain
of this but it is my guess.
Hth,
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:47 PM, WWJD wrote:
o, ok, Randy, so how do we go about configuring this thing?
Now that I installed the .mpkg file, will it be residing in my
Application's folder, and if so, once it's up, just like usual, do I
just need to dooa command comma to bring up the preferences?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
Chris,
That's why I have configured Flip4Mac to bring up Quicktime rather
than use the embedded player. This way I have the Quicktime
controls which are accessible with VoiceOver. The xm radio embedded
player is flash based and VoiceOver doesn't work well or at all with
flash.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:42 PM, WWJD wrote:
Well, I can get the xm radio site to work, but I don't know where
the little icons like I said to turn up and down the volume in the
embedded player are. I neither can find stop, play, or mute.
It's not a matter with the xm site, me not getting it to play, and
work, it's more I can't find out where those controls are in the
player.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Having a slight bitta issue with two web sites.
You need Flip4Mac. I am able to get both of these sites to work
with no problem using VO.
Randy
On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:39 AM, WWJD wrote:
OK guys, two web sites here that I am slightly having a little
issue with on an accessibility side. One of which is pretty well
not working, period, the other a which is all? frickin? most!
there. It's like, Aaa! So! close, but, so! far.
The first a these, is
http://listen.xmradio.com
OK OK OK, yeah? I know there is a dashboard widget that will do
xm Radio. I googled and can't seem to find the thing. So, if
anyone can help me find it, and give me a download link to it, or
even better yet, just attach it and privately send it to me, that
would really be awesome.
Basicly though: the only issue really with the online web based
player that I really am seeing, if anything, is, in the player
frame, if I interact with it, I do see!the quick tune area, and
the go button, however, under Windows, I am able in Internet
Explorer, to also see that in that frame, there is a volume up,
volume down, stop, play, and mute. I don't see these with
voiceover at all in the player frame. They're not even showing
as non clickable items. They're just simply put: not there.
They're totally being skipped over. I tried vo up, down, left,
and right. O yeah, I made sure first, I was interacting with the
frame, don't worry about that. I'm perfectly aware a having to
interact with each frame. Really though, from what I can see,
that seems to honestly be the only real issue that I have. Aside
that, the site seems to work quite flawlessly. The little
buttons in the preset frame, like what's on, my presets, etc?
You do! have to actually do vo +command+F5, and route your mouse
pointer, then vo+Shift+Space on 'em, and actually clickem, and
I'll tell yall now, they won't show up as links. They're
actually not links. In windows, at least, they're called on
mouse overs. Dono how the Mac really handles those. Anyway
though, if you actually physically clickem, they seem to be
working.
Now, the second site, I'm actually seeing a little more of an
issue.
http://www.RadioTime.com
Basicly, if you sign up for an account, which btw, is free, and
there is no captcha the last I looked.
Then, once logged in, try doing this just to regenerate my
problem:
Once logged in, do a vo+F. Yes, Vo F actually works fine in this
case.
Do a search for the word "Location"
Now, you probably're gonna land onna heading. So, vo right once,
and you'll land on the link that says by location. OK, vo space
on that link.
Now, on this next page, do a vo+F, then put in the word "north"
That'll land you on a link that says North America. Vo space on
it.
Now, on the next page, do a vo+F, and search for "United"
That will land you on a link called United States of America. Vo
space on that link.
Now, do vo+F, and put in "Carolina"
That'll land you on North Carolina. Vo space on it.
Now do vo+F, and put in "Charlotte"
This should land you, most likely on a link that says something
to the effect of Charlotte, Gastonia, Rockhill. Hit Vo+Space on
it.
OK, now, finally, last step!
Bring up your item chooser list, with vo+I. then type in WLYT.
Now vo down arrow until you find the link for WLYT 102.9.
Once there, Vo space on it to move to that link. Now, don't vo
space on it. That's not what you wanna do. I just had you move
to it, so you'll be in the area I need you. OK, now, Vo left
arrow, until you get to a link that says listen. It'll be the
first link you'll hit that says this, right before that WLYT
102.9 link. OK, Vo space on that listen link.
Now, This is the problem. It comes up in a new browser window,
just fine, however, there is absolutely no audio. If you look at
the top left item of this new window that popped up, you'll see
something that says Mac Warning image. But then, voing around on
this sfcreen doesn't really reveal anything that says I need to
downlaod a plug in, or that it's not compatible, or the like.
So, I'm really kind a stumped. It works absolutely beyond
flawlessly in Windows, but on the Mac, it's beeing a pain. I
didn't know if maybe yall may could figure outta way in Safari to
get it to work. I don't have an intel based mac, so Virtual Box,
Fusion, and Boot Camp, are totally outta the question.
Chris.
