Actually will I have to disagree on these points, I'd just as soon not
have them as I always turn them off anyway. I find that I can always
identify a table by context and, further, that often the Windows
screen readers identify tables where I don't want to know--tables used
for layout for example. I like as little verbosity as possible to be
honest--let me read the information and I'll decide how to interpret
it. Nevertheless for those who do want them these options should be
configurable, but I wouldn't want them forced on me.
One thing I would like to see is the ability to read longdescs and/or
title tags make it into the systemwide Webkit framework--recent svn
builds of Webkit already have this--as well as integrating the fix for
multi-select list boxes that has been in webkit for about half a year
now. I think the main reason this hasn't been integrated is that we
haven't seen a Safari update since 3.1.2 and they probably want to
make sure everything will work, but that's just a guess. Another thing
that needs to be dealt with which seems to be fixed in recent Webkit
builds is the empty page issue, i.e. when you navigate to a page and
interact with it you just get a beep as if there's nothing there.
Pressing command-l then command-r usually fixes these, nevertheless
this shouldn't be happening at all and is sometimes not an option,
e.g. if you're in the middle of placing an order for something online
and can't resend the form. One final thing I'd like to see implemented
is that it would tell us if images and items are clickable that are
not links--in otherwords, elements with onClick and onMouseover
functions. These are no problem at the moment if you know they are
there, but sometimes you don't know until you try them out.
Honestly though at this point the advantages of using VO on the web
outweigh the disadvantages for me--I like the visual approximation
that group mode gives me, I like the limited verbosity for the most
part, and I just like Safari in general as a browser.
Out of curiosity Will, have you played with the recent Webkit builds
at all? They really are making steady progress.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 05:29, Will Lomas wrote:
table identification for a start
how many headings frames and links a site has when it first loads
would be advantagious for those who may want to know what elements
are on a page before browsing it
On 24 Oct 2008, at 13:08, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I would say it's already there, what do you think the windows
access has that te mac doesn't? Of course, flash support is not
available on the mac yet, hopefully that will work at some point.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:51 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
hmmm wouldn't it be great to get safari web access for us up to
that of windows competition?
On 24 Oct 2008, at 01:36, Babcock, Michael Alex wrote:
i wonder if this has voiceover on it? Hmm.
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