Oh nice. I didn't realize that vo-shift-m works in webkit now, that
must be a fairly recent fix as the build I had a week ago didn't allow
this. Just tried it though and it definitely works, very very nice to
have this feature working. No more ctrl-clicking.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:33, Esther wrote:
Hi Will, Jacob, and Others,
A useful way to keep up with the Webkit nightly builds is to use
NightShift, which you can download from:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18700
This will automatically download and update the latest version of
Webkit in a fully automatic fashion through their GUI interface.
The only change I needed to make to the default settings was to go
to preferences and change the Nightly build URL to:
http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/latest/mac
This is not quite a manual update since NightShift checks whether
you are up to date.
When you launch Webkit from your apps directory it is just like
running Safari, except that many things are fixed! For example, you
can use the contextual menu on web links to find the option to
download files instead of displaying/playing them in Safari.
Jacob wrote:
One final thing I'd like to see implemented is that it would tell us
if images and items are clickable that are not links--in otherwords,
elements with onClick and onMouseover functions. These are no
problem at the moment if you know they are there, but sometimes you
don't know until you try them out.
Yes! On a related point, I noticed that ever since Safari 3.1.2 if
I print a web page to PDF the links work in Preview, although they
are not labeled in any way. By that I mean that if I have cursor
tracking on so that my mouse cursor is at the position of my
VoiceOver cursor and I'm reading a web page that I printed (Command-
P) and then saved to PDF in the Preview application, then clicking
with my trackpad (or with with a mouse if you have one attached, or
pressing the "5" key if you have Numpad Commander in Leopard
activated with a numeric keypad) brings up the original link that
was in the web page. For example, I saved a web page that
described download links of books by printing to a PDF file, and
when I clicked on what was a download link in the web page, Safari
came up and started downloading the book! All the other links
worked, too!
About the only thing that I can't use the Webkit nightly builds for
is using access keys for the Mail Archive web pages of this list.
These hot keys allow me to read and search the secondary archives
for this list at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
The Webkit builds after early September stopped supporting the
Control key prefix for the access key, and mapped this to the
VoiceOver Control-Option keys. So if I run an archive search and
want to quickly read through threads, or if I'm traveling and want
to read the posts to this list on the web, and easily read the next
or previous message in a thread, I use Safari instead of Webkit.
(These are the current access keys for the Mail Archive link given
above. And yes, I have reported this to the Webkit team.)
Control-n (Next) Later message by thread
Control-p (Previous) Earlier message by thread
Control-f (Forward) Later message by date
Control-b (Back) Earlier message by date
Control-i (Index) Chronological index
Control-c (Contents) Thread index
Cheers,
Esther
On Oct 24, 2008, at 4:44 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Will
www.webkit.org is where you get them, go to get the code then go to
the nightly builds. You do have to update them manually. What these
builds do is launch your system's Safari--prefs and all--with the
newer version of Webkit instead of the systemwide version. So
everything is the same except the rendering engine, and you can run
it alongside your system's Safari.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 07:37, Will Lomas wrote:
no as i am not sure where to get them and if they auto update or
whether i have to keep getting new builds
