Hi Søren,
NightShift is a program that checks for and installs the latest
version of Webkit. It goes through and checks the current version of
Webkit on your machine, then checks what the latest version of the
Webkit nightly build is on the web site. If you have the latest
build, it will stop and tell you so. If you don't have the latest
build it can download it for you, mount the disk image, and copy the
new nightly build to your Applications directory. You can either run
this interactively and sequentially, or you could set this up to run
in an automated way with no user interaction, and set it up as a cron
job to run when you are not using the computer (they mention the
possibility of using the CronniX utility to set this up in their notes).
If the latest nightly build is the same as the one on your machine,
and you are using interactive mode, you'll be given four options:
Quit (the default, since you have the most recent build)
Cancel (in case you want to adjust preferences without getting a new
build)
Download (if for some reason you want to re-install the latest build)
Revert (in case you found the most recent build too buggy)
I've actually seen the contextual menu option for links (VO-Shift-M)
show up a while ago, but I sometime notice that features get added, go
away temporarily, and then re-appear when somebody notices that
they've disappeared. Maybe we should start listing the currently
working fixes each one of us has noticed in the Webkit nightly builds?
Cheers,
Esther
On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
Esther: Sounds really interesting. There is something I don't
understand, and it might be a stupid question: Is Nightshift a
webbrowser which uses the latest webkit, or is it a plugin or
something simmular that you install in Safari to use the latest
webkit?
Best regards
Søren Jensen
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Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
On 24/10/2008, at 20.33, Esther wrote:
Hi Will, Jacob, and Others,
A useful way to keep up with the Webkit nightly builds is to use
NightShift, which you can download from:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18700
This will automatically download and update the latest version of
Webkit in a fully automatic fashion through their GUI interface.
The only change I needed to make to the default settings was to go
to preferences and change the Nightly build URL to:
http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/latest/mac
This is not quite a manual update since NightShift checks whether
you are up to date.
When you launch Webkit from your apps directory it is just like
running Safari, except that many things are fixed! For example,
you can use the contextual menu on web links to find the option to
download files instead of displaying/playing them in Safari.
Jacob wrote:
One final thing I'd like to see implemented is that it would tell
us if images and items are clickable that are not links--in
otherwords, elements with onClick and onMouseover functions. These
are no problem at the moment if you know they are there, but
sometimes you don't know until you try them out.
Yes! On a related point, I noticed that ever since Safari 3.1.2 if
I print a web page to PDF the links work in Preview, although they
are not labeled in any way. By that I mean that if I have cursor
tracking on so that my mouse cursor is at the position of my
VoiceOver cursor and I'm reading a web page that I printed (Command-
P) and then saved to PDF in the Preview application, then clicking
with my trackpad (or with with a mouse if you have one attached, or
pressing the "5" key if you have Numpad Commander in Leopard
activated with a numeric keypad) brings up the original link that
was in the web page. For example, I saved a web page that
described download links of books by printing to a PDF file, and
when I clicked on what was a download link in the web page, Safari
came up and started downloading the book! All the other links
worked, too!
About the only thing that I can't use the Webkit nightly builds for
is using access keys for the Mail Archive web pages of this list.
These hot keys allow me to read and search the secondary archives
for this list at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
The Webkit builds after early September stopped supporting the
Control key prefix for the access key, and mapped this to the
VoiceOver Control-Option keys. So if I run an archive search and
want to quickly read through threads, or if I'm traveling and want
to read the posts to this list on the web, and easily read the next
or previous message in a thread, I use Safari instead of Webkit.
(These are the current access keys for the Mail Archive link given
above. And yes, I have reported this to the Webkit team.)
Control-n (Next) Later message by thread
Control-p (Previous) Earlier message by thread
Control-f (Forward) Later message by date
Control-b (Back) Earlier message by date
Control-i (Index) Chronological index
Control-c (Contents) Thread index
Cheers,
Esther
On Oct 24, 2008, at 4:44 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Will
www.webkit.org is where you get them, go to get the code then go
to the nightly builds. You do have to update them manually. What
these builds do is launch your system's Safari--prefs and all--
with the newer version of Webkit instead of the systemwide
version. So everything is the same except the rendering engine,
and you can run it alongside your system's Safari.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 07:37, Will Lomas wrote:
no as i am not sure where to get them and if they auto update or
whether i have to keep getting new builds
