Hello Esther,
As always, you provide a wealth of knowledge and I really appreciate it. I am a member of Book Share and I love the O'Reilly books. And thanks for the other pages and archived message.
Dan
On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Esther wrote:

Hi Kaare and others,

For new Mac users coming in with a background in linux or unix, there's an old but good web page called "Top Ten Mac OS X Tips for Unix Geeks":

http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/2792

There were some quick introductory sites to unix (for general) users mentioned in an older post to this list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg30161.html

That post also notes that you can find a number of O'Reilly Books (including "Mac OS X for Unix Geeks" -- an up-to-date 2008 version of the older book that was the source for the Mac OS X tips for unix geeks page) at bookshare:

http://www.bookshare.org

The O'Reilly books are available to bookshare users world-wide, and are a particularly good general source of information on computer topics -- including many specialized areas (Perl, Java, C++ programming, Apache, etc.) as well as general-purpose guides. The advanced search page at Bookshare.org has a separate pop-up button where you can choose "O'Reilly books, available worldwide". There are close to a thousand O'Reilly titles available in accessible format at Bookshare.org, and information about format (Daisy) is available on the result pages for each book.

Possibly interesting O'Reilly titles for new Mac users:

Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual, Leopard edition by David Pogue

Mac OS X Leopard Pocket Guide by Chuck Toporek

Another good source of information are the "Take Control" Ebooks:

http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog.html

These are modestly priced (generally around $10) ebooks that are available in downloadable PDF format. They're pitched more at the general user, and are generally shorter and more topical than the O'Reilly books. A nice feature is that if there are updates to the version you purchased, you can download updated versions free from the Take Control web site.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther


On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:08 AM, kaare dehard wrote:

Multiple letter navigation like that is a very unixy thing. I was able to do something similar with ubuntu and other linux's and since os 10 is based on free bsd then, it follows that this is very native to that sort of os.

Cheers.
On 23-Oct-08, at 12:45 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

Hi,

Based on the instructions in a different post by the previous poster to this thread, I have found a trick.

Go to the Menu bar. Now let's say Mail and Messages are in the same menu bar. Now, rapidly type m, e and you will get message. Type M, A, and you will get to mail.

I wondered what happened to first letter navigation, it looks like Apple had a trick up their sleeve.

Thanks for listening,


On 22-Oct-08, at 9:41 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

To reply to messages in mail, simply hit command R.
I would explore the menu bar to look for commands like that, VO will tell you if there is one for a menu option. On Oct 22, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Dan Geise wrote:

sorry, I could not figure out how to reply to your responses, I feel I should give you all a little back ground. I am 28 years old, I lost my vision about 2 years ago due to a heart surgery. I used a program called freedom box made by serotek for a bit but it was really expencive. I recently switched to a mac because of a pod cast I listen too called the screenless switchers. anyways I am looking for adcvice on how to use this thing. I built computers and have a good knowledge of how everything works on the windows side with no screen reader but this is different world.

just wondering what advice tyou all can give to me to make this transition a bit easier. I have flip for mac for online listening to web radio, I also got a program called tables for my "excel" documents. are there any other things I NEED for everyday use. Thank you all

I feel I have found a community that I can look to for advice instead of just experimenting and seeing what happens...

thank you dan







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