Hello,

I think I can get to the bottom of this really quick for you. If at any point you accidentally disconnect an iPod while syncing, you really should use the "Restore" button. First, your spoken menus are going to potentially be out of sync. iTunes references XML files stored on the iPod, and therefore may think voice files exist that simply don't. It appears that the xml is updated first, then files are synced.

This also effects items synced from playlists, and playlists scheduled to sync. In any case, there is a reason it says "Do not disconnect." If you use disk mode, you can click the eject button in iTunes, or simply visit the desktop and press command-e on your iPod. You also may name the iPod something totally different from the disk name.

Yes, you can sync as many iPods to a single library as you desire, and manage them all the way you wish. I have a great environment where I can experiment with this stuff all day, and I've seen every combo you can imagine. Video iPods and nanos, iPhones and Touches, all on the same library. Even two different nanos. Just make sure you name them differently, it may not be a requirement, but you're bound to confuse them yourself.

Good luck, simply restore and forget about your problem.

Ryan





On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Chris,

I guess you did the reinstallation of iTunes before you got my email suggestion to create a smart playlist. For what it's worth, my unstated guess was that you had run into a problem in disconnecting the iPod. I'm still somewhat unclear as to whether you intend to sync your father's iPod with your iTunes account (permanently -- this means that he does not have a separate iTunes music account either on your Mac or on your PC or whatever -- he is only ever going to transfer music from your iTunes account). If you intend to let him use this player for his own music, the iPod Nano 4G that you gave him should be set up to sync with HIS account, if he has his own computer (either Mac or PC) or a separate account on one of your computers.

You asked:
In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can sync one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync unlimited IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to manually manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have one IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through manual mode.
Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere.


Nope, each iPod is separately recognized. You can have multiple iPods sync'ed to your iTunes library, and you can have different content selected for each one of them. Otherwise, it would not make sense if Apple wanted to sell someone an iPod Classic to store an extensive library and still persuade them to buy a Nano for working out in the gym if they told them that they either had to sync exactly the same content or else manually manage their music. And remember, older iPods don't support the same content -- like movies -- while Nanos and Classics don't support applications designed for the iPhone.

What happens is that each device, it's capacity, sync configuration, etc. is separately recognized and configured. You could corrupt this if you managed to mess up the com.apple.ipod.plist file. However, if you want to take a look at that, you can use QuickLook and go to your /Library/Preferences folder (use the Command-Shift-G shortcut for "Go to folder" in Finder and type in "/Library/ Preferences"), select this file, and press space bar to activate QuickLook.

I suspect that restoring the devices might also have fixed the way they were recognized in iTunes, but I wouldn't have taken that step until I'd checked some other things first.

Cheers,

Esther




On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

OK, guys. I sent this to the guy who is now in charge of this case, from Apple. Yall look this over. I'd like a 2nd opinion, but, I think? we may? be getting to the bottom a this, finally!

I'm obviously not including this guy's personal e-mail address he gave me, or he'd have my head, but I've at least! below pasted exactly what I wrote him. Tell me if yall think my theory's correct.



Hey Nate, it's Chris Gilland. I spoke with you regarding the weird ITunes
issue with syncing playlists.

I went to the site you gave me on how to properly remove ITunes, and did it. I reinstalled from the itunes dmg image, then recreated a playlist called "IPod." I then plugged in the IPod. Well, something really odd happened. Disc mode got enabled under the summary tab. Well, whatever... I disabled
that, and went under the music tab.  Guess what!  I now see all the
playlists including "IPod."  Is that not something else?  I musta not
removed it correctly at all the first time, as that did the trick. Good golly Miss Molly though. Hey, that'sw a good song! O wait... Anyway, I r'r'r'really! wonder why it did this. I'm scared at this point to plug
another Nano in.  OK, so yeah, like, check it out.  Here's my theory.

I wonder if...

Could it be, that just as you can only sync one library at a time with an
IPod, I wonder if it goes the same way with auto syncing libraries.

In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can sync one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync unlimited IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to manually manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have one IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through manual mode. Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere. I cannot really pinpoint down where, but apparently, that must be the case. Tell ya what:

Can you do me a favor? Try grabbing two Nano 8 gigs if possible, and sync one of 'em automatically. Then go on that first one and sinc it in the music tab with just one manually created playlist. Now go plug the second IPod in. Try then to sync it with another manually created playlist sepret from the one you used for the first IPod. Tell me if that works. If it does, then that proves my theory wrong. If it disappears, then reinstall ITunes, and you'll be fine. I just wanna have another person try testing my theory and see if then! they can regenerate this issue. I'll betcha almost anything that my theory's right, but I dono for sure, and, I may be a teer3
tech agent for another company, but even teer3 reps are known to make
booboos at times. LOL! Anyway, let me know please what that does, or if
you think my theory even remotely! may be right.

Thank you ever so much for all of your help tonight. I thoroughly enjoyed
talking with you.

Chris






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