Ryan
Unfortunately, restoring did not do the trick. This apparently is a much
deeper ITunes issue. I mean, they had to make an RTA for it at Apple, if
that says anything. I spoke to one of the highest leveled certified Apple
Product Specialists, who apparently has worked for Apple for over 10 years,
and even he! and all of his
colleagues! had no clue. When I completely uninstalled ITunes, then
downloaded the dmg, and reinstalled, then created my playlist again, and
only? and only! then, replugged in my Nano, it resolved the problem. Ester,
as for your mis-understanding, no, my father is probably gonna wind up using
his laptop which is a Windows machine to manage his music. The only reason
that I synced it with my Mac, was because it was his bd, and I wanted to
open the thing up, and have it pre-loaded for him with some of his favorite
tracks. Yeah, I know: he only can sync it with one library, which awe
great! means now, he can't sync it with his Inspiron 1000 unless he first
erases the content currently on it. Now, Apple did! tell me, of a work
around. I dono how true it is though. I don't have another IPod to test it
with. Apparently, when it says it's synced with another library, do I wanna
erase and sync with the new computer, someone told me if you click on
cancel, then go to the settings of the IPod, and switch it to manually
manage in the summary tab, then, I can actually at that point use the drag
drop option, and just manage it that way, yet not delete anything. I dono
how true that is, but anyway, that's what they told me, at least.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Dour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue.
Hello,
I think I can get to the bottom of this really quick for you. If at any
point you accidentally disconnect an iPod while syncing, you really
should use the "Restore" button. First, your spoken menus are going to
potentially be out of sync. iTunes references XML files stored on the
iPod, and therefore may think voice files exist that simply don't. It
appears that the xml is updated first, then files are synced.
This also effects items synced from playlists, and playlists scheduled to
sync. In any case, there is a reason it says "Do not disconnect." If you
use disk mode, you can click the eject button in iTunes, or simply visit
the desktop and press command-e on your iPod. You also may name the iPod
something totally different from the disk name.
Yes, you can sync as many iPods to a single library as you desire, and
manage them all the way you wish. I have a great environment where I can
experiment with this stuff all day, and I've seen every combo you can
imagine. Video iPods and nanos, iPhones and Touches, all on the same
library. Even two different nanos. Just make sure you name them
differently, it may not be a requirement, but you're bound to confuse
them yourself.
Good luck, simply restore and forget about your problem.
Ryan
On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Chris,
I guess you did the reinstallation of iTunes before you got my email
suggestion to create a smart playlist. For what it's worth, my unstated
guess was that you had run into a problem in disconnecting the iPod.
I'm still somewhat unclear as to whether you intend to sync your
father's iPod with your iTunes account (permanently -- this means that
he does not have a separate iTunes music account either on your Mac or
on your PC or whatever -- he is only ever going to transfer music from
your iTunes account). If you intend to let him use this player for his
own music, the iPod Nano 4G that you gave him should be set up to sync
with HIS account, if he has his own computer (either Mac or PC) or a
separate account on one of your computers.
You asked:
In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can
sync
one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync
unlimited
IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to
manually
manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have
one
IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through manual
mode.
Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere.
Nope, each iPod is separately recognized. You can have multiple iPods
sync'ed to your iTunes library, and you can have different content
selected for each one of them. Otherwise, it would not make sense if
Apple wanted to sell someone an iPod Classic to store an extensive
library and still persuade them to buy a Nano for working out in the gym
if they told them that they either had to sync exactly the same content
or else manually manage their music. And remember, older iPods don't
support the same content -- like movies -- while Nanos and Classics
don't support applications designed for the iPhone.
What happens is that each device, it's capacity, sync configuration,
etc. is separately recognized and configured. You could corrupt this if
you managed to mess up the com.apple.ipod.plist file. However, if you
want to take a look at that, you can use QuickLook and go to your
/Library/Preferences folder (use the Command-Shift-G shortcut for "Go to
folder" in Finder and type in "/Library/ Preferences"), select this file,
and press space bar to activate QuickLook.
I suspect that restoring the devices might also have fixed the way they
were recognized in iTunes, but I wouldn't have taken that step until I'd
checked some other things first.
Cheers,
Esther
On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
OK, guys. I sent this to the guy who is now in charge of this case,
from Apple. Yall look this over. I'd like a 2nd opinion, but, I
think? we may? be getting to the bottom a this, finally!
I'm obviously not including this guy's personal e-mail address he gave
me, or he'd have my head, but I've at least! below pasted exactly what
I wrote him. Tell me if yall think my theory's correct.
Hey Nate, it's Chris Gilland. I spoke with you regarding the weird
ITunes
issue with syncing playlists.
I went to the site you gave me on how to properly remove ITunes, and
did it.
I reinstalled from the itunes dmg image, then recreated a playlist
called
"IPod." I then plugged in the IPod. Well, something really odd
happened.
Disc mode got enabled under the summary tab. Well, whatever... I
disabled
that, and went under the music tab. Guess what! I now see all the
playlists including "IPod." Is that not something else? I musta not
removed it correctly at all the first time, as that did the trick.
Good
golly Miss Molly though. Hey, that'sw a good song! O wait... Anyway,
I
r'r'r'really! wonder why it did this. I'm scared at this point to plug
another Nano in. OK, so yeah, like, check it out. Here's my theory.
I wonder if...
Could it be, that just as you can only sync one library at a time with
an
IPod, I wonder if it goes the same way with auto syncing libraries.
In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can
sync
one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync
unlimited
IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to
manually
manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have
one
IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through manual
mode.
Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere. I cannot
really
pinpoint down where, but apparently, that must be the case. Tell ya
what:
Can you do me a favor? Try grabbing two Nano 8 gigs if possible, and
sync
one of 'em automatically. Then go on that first one and sinc it in the
music tab with just one manually created playlist. Now go plug the
second
IPod in. Try then to sync it with another manually created playlist
sepret
from the one you used for the first IPod. Tell me if that works. If
it
does, then that proves my theory wrong. If it disappears, then
reinstall
ITunes, and you'll be fine. I just wanna have another person try
testing my
theory and see if then! they can regenerate this issue. I'll betcha
almost
anything that my theory's right, but I dono for sure, and, I may be a
teer3
tech agent for another company, but even teer3 reps are known to make
booboos at times. LOL! Anyway, let me know please what that does, or
if
you think my theory even remotely! may be right.
Thank you ever so much for all of your help tonight. I thoroughly
enjoyed
talking with you.
Chris
