could make for a nice hiking experience eh? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue.
O, ok, were you just joking? Sorry. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. > There was no confusion. I plug mine into my boes companion 5 system > sometimes and wish I had a longer cord. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. > > > No dude, what I meant was, I have a mini component stereo hooked up out in > my den. All I've done, is plug a cable which is stereo RCA on one end, > and > 8th inch on the other, so I went from the stereo A U X input RCA jacks, to > the stereo ear phone jack of the IPod. This way I can play my IPod > externally and not have to use headphones. By power, all I meant was that > my stereo was 300 watz two channels. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Chris. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. > > >> you must have a big pocket and power source to carry around all that >> power >> for your nano <g> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:51 AM >> Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. >> >> >> I love mine too! In fact, yall know what I just did? I hooked mine up >> via >> stereo red/white RCA cables to my RCA mini component system out in my >> den. >> That thing's pushing 300 watz for both speakers, and both channels, so >> basicly 150 wats per speaker. Sure beats the heck outta those little >> Gateway PC speakers I did! have it going through. >> >> Chris. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jacob Schmude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:49 PM >> Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. >> >> >>>I just got my 4th gen nano yesterday (finally). I can confirm that with >>>iTunes 8.0.1 and firmware 1.0.2 it is generating spoken entries whenever >>>something is moved to the iPod, regardless of whether it is synched or >>>manually dragged. This is with the Mac version of iTunes of course, no >>>idea about Windows. Also this is the 16gb model, though I doubt that >>>would >>>matter. I absolutely love my nano! >>> >>> >>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 18:34, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> Maybe this is a new feature!<smile> >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Christopher Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ester, that is really weird, as I just tried with my Nano doing a >>>>> drag >>>>> and rop, and actually, it spoke perfectly. >>>>> >>>>> Oddness. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what is going on with your Nano, but when I tried >>>> dragging >>>> and dropping new content that had never been placed on my iPod >>>> before -- >>>> in any incarnation of the iTunes data base or player, whether restored >>>> or not --- I didn't get spoken menus. Sounds as though you managed to >>>> trigger something across the boundary of what syncs and what gets >>>> transferred. >>>> >>>> Is your iPod still configured for data mode? >>>> >>>> Incidentally, I don't think that David's explanations work for what >>>> has >>>> been going on with your iPod, but I'm not sure which files keep track >>>> of >>>> recognizing the device. That could be in the binary file that we >>>> can't >>>> get to directly. Only the "iTunes Music Library.xml" file is used to >>>> communicate with other programs, and that may not be where the weird >>>> things are happening. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >>>>> X >>>>> by theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:24 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 3:22 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ester, as for your mis-understanding, no, my father is probably >>>>>>> gonna wind up using his laptop which is a Windows machine to manage >>>>>>> his music. The only reason that I synced it with my Mac, was >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> it was his bd, and I wanted to open the thing up, and have it >>>>>>> pre-loaded for him with some of his favorite tracks. Yeah, I >>>>>>> know: >>>>>>> he only can sync it with one library, which awe great! means now, >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> can't sync it with his Inspiron 1000 unless he first erases the >>>>>>> content currently on it. Now, Apple did! tell me, of a work >>>>>>> around. >>>>>>> I dono how true it is though. I don't have another IPod to test >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> with. Apparently, when it says it's synced with another library, >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> I wanna erase and sync with the new computer, someone told me if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> click on cancel, then go to the settings of the IPod, and switch >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> to manually manage in the summary tab, then, I can actually at that >>>>>>> point use the drag drop option, and just manage it that way, yet >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> delete anything. I dono how true that is, but anyway, that's what >>>>>>> they told me, at least. >>>>>>> >>>>>> This trick doesn't work for your father, because you formatted the >>>>>> iPod on a Mac. He's not going to be able to "see" these files on >>>>>> his >>>>>> PC unless he goes through a third party tool. Traditional tools, >>>>>> like >>>>>> MacOpener, got discontinued last year. In any case, he should >>>>>> restore >>>>>> his iPod on the PC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, the work-around Apple told you about can let him add content >>>>>> manually to his iPod from other PCs that he isn't sync'd to. When >>>>>> he >>>>>> connects his iPod (which is now synced to his iTunes account on his >>>>>> PC) to another Windows iTunes installation (say, your account on >>>>>> your >>>>>> Windows machine), he'll get prompted with a message that tells him >>>>>> that his iPod is synced to another machine, and asks him whether he >>>>>> wants to erase and sync to this new library. (In the past, this is >>>>>> where knowing about overriding the autosync by holding down the >>>>>> Command and Option keys on a Mac, or the Control and Shift keys on a >>>>>> PC, really paid off -- because you didn't used to get prompted about >>>>>> this!). At this point he can set up the options to manually manage >>>>>> the iPod in the summary tab, and those settings will be applied >>>>>> whenever he connects the iPod to that iTunes account. He (or you) >>>>>> can >>>>>> drag and drop playlists onto that iPod. The playlists can even >>>>>> contain DRM'd tracks (from iTunes or Audible) provided that his iPod >>>>>> is authorized to play them (this gets tricky if you've set him up as >>>>>> a >>>>>> separate account in iTunes; it's less tricky for Audible since you >>>>>> can >>>>>> have content from up to two different Audible accounts authorized to >>>>>> play on a single iPod). >>>>>> >>>>>> For older iPods, you could play them cross-platform provided they >>>>>> were >>>>>> formatted for Windows. The rule is that Macs can read Windows FAT >>>>>> formatted files, but Windows can't read Mac file formats. So if >>>>>> iPods >>>>>> were formatted for Windows, you could add content to them from both >>>>>> Windows and Macs iTunes installations, provided that you only used >>>>>> manual file transfers and not auto-sync (which assumes that you can >>>>>> overwrite the files on the device with files on your computer). The >>>>>> way to think about this is that you can easily use USB memory sticks >>>>>> cross-platform, and these are FAT32 format files. The first >>>>>> generation >>>>>> iPod Shuffle is basically like a USB memory stick with expanded play >>>>>> capability. These cross-platform iPod systems start to become >>>>>> unstable when you try to handle things like videos or extensive >>>>>> album >>>>>> artwork cross-platform. There are also issues about maximum >>>>>> character >>>>>> length in Window file names and forbidden characters. Non-English >>>>>> characters (accents, symbols) don't always get handled correctly >>>>>> under >>>>>> the Windows format. Still, if you stick to simple music and >>>>>> audiobook files (and audio podcasts), it's pretty straightforward. >>>>>> I >>>>>> manually transfer content from my Mac to a first generation iPod >>>>>> Nano >>>>>> that was formatted for Windows and has never been updated. (It's >>>>>> associated with someone else's machine, but has always been left in >>>>>> manual mode). This kind of cross-platform use is probably not >>>>>> possible with the 4G Nanos -- certainly not if you want speakable >>>>>> menus, which relies on the "sync" to generate the spoken bits. In >>>>>> the >>>>>> (distant) past iPods (especially hard-drive iPods) used to come >>>>>> pre-formatted, and you would run "updates". Now the original >>>>>> format/install is done automatically through iTunes, so the way the >>>>>> device is formatted depends on your operating system, adn this is >>>>>> automatically detected. >>>>>> >>>>>> The more general trick, of setting iPods to manual mode and >>>>>> transferring additional content (via VoiceOver drag and drop) when >>>>>> these iPods are not connected to the accounts they sync with, will >>>>>> work for both Mac and PC platforms. However, the down side is that >>>>>> unless they "sync" you won't get spoken menu clips generated for the >>>>>> content. If I drag and drop additional tracks to a 4G Nano they >>>>>> will >>>>>> appear on the disk. Sighted users will see their entries under >>>>>> playlists, artist, etc. on the Nano screen. You just won't hear any >>>>>> spoken content for these entries. To generate the spoken clips, >>>>>> you'd >>>>>> have to add these files to your iTunes library and sync them. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
