Plethora indeed and you ar not alone. One of the reasons for turning off jaws or any other screen reader in windows off while working with it when you don't need it include what it does to the cursor. I get so confused by it now, I could spit.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: voice over evaluation Agreed, as far as cursor nav goes, (and I've said this a plethora of times before lol!) the Mac cursor movement is no different from how windows does it in Word or any other text app. It's just that JFW or WE changes the reading behavior so it appears to work differently. This actually kind of bothers me, as it shelters VI people from what's actually going on until they get a completely different picture of things. NOw, this is obviously just a tiny thing in the grand scheme as it were, <smile> but it really does change people's perceptions. Anyway, blah blah blah! lol! As a whole, I thought this review was terrific! and I'd recommend it to anyone thinking about the Mac, coming from a Windows standpoint. Have an awesome day All!… Smiles, Cara :) On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > I liked the fact that Apple was invited to comment, and that they > responded to the way he described using the spellcheck menu with the > comment that it wasn't the best way to do this and describing how > most users would do this. > > There's also the usual confusion over the way that cursor placement > works on the Mac vs. in Windows. There are much faster ways to > handle his navigation, but they're built into the Mac's shortcuts > <grin>, so they're not VoiceOver specific. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Nov 13, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: > >> Well to be fair, most systems don't seem to come with iWork, so >> that probably wasn't tested. It looked like he just tried >> garageband from iLife. >> >> >> On Nov 13, 2008, at 21:06, David Poehlman wrote: >> >>> I think he says that most apple apps are accessible and that is >>> not quite >>> true when you consider Ilife and Iwork...? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jacob Schmude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>> OS X by >>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: voice over evaluation >>> >>> >>> It's not that bad, honestly. It's pretty fair, though there is a >>> couple errors in it, though mostly about the documentation. There >>> was >>> only one error that I saw regarding Voiceover itself, and honestly I >>> was nitpicking :). He mixed up Dom and Group modes, and which one >>> gives a visual overview of the page--he said Dom mode does that, >>> while >>> its actually group mode. >>> >>> >>> On Nov 13, 2008, at 20:28, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, well hereit is, access world's evaluation of voice over. I >>>> haven't read it yet, going to do that after I send this, here is >>>> the >>>> link. >>>> http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw090603 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
