On 1/18/06, Pavel Janík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    From: Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:43:37 -0500
>
> Chad,
>
>    > > > * Cross platform. Run it on Windows or Linux.
>    >
>    > Thanks for not putting Mac on your list.  Unless you count NeoOffice,
>    > I wouldn't tell people OOo runs on Mac.
>
> does Neo run on Mac OS X without Java? Is Mac OS X without Java Mac OS X?

Mac OS X doesn't come in a "without Java" format.  If you buy a new
Mac, it comes with Java.  If you install OS X, it comes with Java.  if
you run Software Update on Mac, it gets the latest version of
Mac-ified Java.  So there is no Mac OS X without Java.  I'm sure if
you tried really hard to find Java and delete it, Mac OS X would still
run, but I don't know of any reason anyone would do that, other than
to prove they could in response to an email like this.

X11, on the other hand, does not come preinstalled, nor is it a part
of the default install of OS X.  It is included on the disc, but you
have to purposefully (a) know it's there (b) know how to find it and
(c) ask for it specifically - before you get it.  And you can't just
download it or install it by itself in Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger).  If you
try to download it from the Apple website, it will download, but when
you try to install it, the system tells you that you "already have
newer software installed" and doesn't give you any choice but to stop.
 To install X11 on a system that is already running Tiger, you have to
*reinstall Tiger* to do it, potentially losing data and/or
preferences.

If you were to end up with a Mac OS X system that doesn't have Java -
you can easily get it through Software Update or from Apple.com.

Do you use a Mac, Pavel?  Do you know what I'm talking about?  If not,
then it is no longer you don't understand why I said what I said.  If
you've ever tried to install X11 on a Mac that already has Tiger, then
you shouldn't have to ask.

--
- Chad Smith
http://www.gimpshop.net/
Because everyone loves free software!

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