Listen you arrogant jerk - you need to get over *yourself*.

I merely submitted an article - an article that I didn't write - an article
reporting on the findings of a governmental official from France - I'm not a
governmental offical, and I'm not from France.

I do not use scripting - I've never asked for scripting - get your facts
straight.

I thought people interested in promoting OpenOffice.org would like to be
made aware of a governmental leader bringing up a problem with
OpenOffice.org.  If I am not mistaken, in the past, the government of France
has been in favor of OpenOffice.org.  With it's recent findings against
Apple's iTunes-iPod vendor-lock-in - France seems to be pro-openness.  It
would be important for France to be pro-OpenOffice.org - so any concerns
they have, would be important.

And, why, exactly, would I have to enter a password to open a document if it
is my document?  In other words if someone emailed me a malicious macro'ed
document, why would I need to enter a password to open it?  Your claim that
I am "wrong" is false.  If it's my document - I don't need a password.

I don't want to remove scripting, I want the concerns of the French official
to be addressed.  Again - they are not *MY* concerns - they are those of the
French official.

You can go jump in a lake, I'm tired of defending myself to you or anyone
else.  I support OpenOffice.org - and I have every right to express my
opinion, concerns, beliefs, or whatever.  Grow up.

-Chad

On 8/16/06, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Chad Smith wrote:

> Remember, we are talking about OpenOffice.org - not Linux.  Remember,
the
> problem that he article brings up about OpenOffice.org is that macros,
> which
> can be set up to activate merely by opening a document, can control your
> system.

CAN BE set up to automatically run macros. This is not the default. Get
over yourself.

> Now, I'll admit it's been a couple months since I've used
> OpenOffice.org on
> Linux (I use OOo on Windows, NeoOffice on Mac primarily), but I don't
> recall
> having to enter in a root password to open a document.  Please correct
> me if
> I'm wrong on that.

OK then. You're wrong. You can only open & modify files that you, as the
current user, have access to. I can't log in as myself and modify files
that only root has permission to modify. I don't remember how Apple has
set things up, but I do know that OpenOffice runs with the current
user's permissions, and not root's, so please try to stick to the facts.

> If malicious code can be executed merely by opening a document - that's
a
> problem.
>
> People in this thread have said that if you open a document from an
> unknown
> source, you deserve whatever happens to you.  People have said that
> it's a
> fundamental security practice and common sense not to open a document
> from
> someone you don't know.  "Don't take data from strangers" kind of thing.
>
> Here's the problem - it's a text file.  It's a document.  It's words and
> pictures.  It's not a program.  I'm not security expert - but I would
> have
> never thought opening a word processing file could hurt my computer.
> Especially in Linux or Mac.  Especially if the file is in an "open
> international ISO format".  Apparently, I was wrong.  But I'm probably
> not
> the only one who felt safe opening what is the electronic equivalent of
a
> piece of paper.

I don't think so. If people haven't gotten their heads around macro
viruses by now, then I agree with others that they deserve what they
get. Users have demanded that office packages have scripting support.
I'm sure you're one of these users. Users will have to deal with the
issues that scripting support raises.

My installation of OpenOffice comes with macro security set to 'medium',
which requires user confirmation before running macros. I don't see a
problem here. If some people want macros, and other people want
security, then this seems to be the only sensible solution.

At this point I should bring another topic of recent discussion into the
mix. Aren't you Chad - the same Chad that always argues for integrating
everything under the sun in one package? So are you now saying you want
everything under the sun, apart from scripting, because some user might
be running OpenOffice as root, and receive an OpenOffice attachment with
a macro virus, and they might have either disabled macro security
completely, or have hit 'run macro' when the security dialog appears,
and this oh-so-remote possibility is such an affront to common decency
that clearly OpenOffice shouldn't have scripting capability?

Chad, I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Your posts can only be
understood in the context of trolling.

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North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060
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